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Post by lordyam on Jun 27, 2017 23:40:52 GMT -5
Since it's been 40 years, it's time to reflect.
Admittedly my first exposure to Star wars was the phantom menace (I saw the originals later). I liked them at the time but was more an EU guy. It was only later that I developed an appreciation for the films themselves. In many ways they SHOULDN'T work (having cribbed a lot of ideas from other sources) but ultimately they do work. For all his flaws Lucas was able to synthesize the ideas into a coherent and original setting; the characters are also developed enough that they manage to transcend their archetypes and be real human beings.
Return of the Jedi had problems (Bringing back the death star, ewoks, leia being luke's sister) But overall it was good. The sword fight between Luke and Vader is in the top ten and Vader's redemption was great.
So what is your star wars experience
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Post by thedarkman on Jun 28, 2017 6:12:34 GMT -5
I seen Star Wars in the summer of '77 at my local drive-in. I was 12 years old. Needless to say, it rocked my world. I had never seen anything remotely like it before, and the experience remains unmatched to this day. A seminal film, experienced at an influential point in my life. Super cool!
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Post by finarvyn on Jun 28, 2017 6:31:46 GMT -5
I agree with thedarkman. As an old guy, I saw the original Star Wars when I was in middle school. (Indoors, however. Not in a drive-in.) It blew me away. Keep in mind that scifi movies before then were pretty lame in terms of special effects, and I can't recall one ever having a quality soundtrack. First time I saw it I was hooked. I often watched it twice in the same day, as I found that one could go from the theater and hang out in the restroom and then re-enter the stream of folks going into the theater again.
The other movies are good, but the first (for me) is special.
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Post by johnnypt on Jun 28, 2017 9:37:26 GMT -5
The first film I saw more than once in the theaters: saw it Labor Day weekend in 1977, twice in 1978 and 3 times in one week during the April 1979 two week reissue before its cable premiere in 1983 and home video issue. I'm up to between 75 and 80 times. My girlfriend's son is now very into the films thanks to Force Awakens and Rogue One, so those films do have an appreciative audience. He even loves Phantom Menace. So despite the commercial aspects of it (My collection of Kenner Star Wars figures without heads and his Lego Star Wars collection), the stories do hook viewers in.
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Post by Erik on Jun 28, 2017 19:05:14 GMT -5
I was 3 years old when I saw Star Wars in the theater in '77, and my parents told me I loved it so much that they took me to see it again at a drive-in. I only remember brief glimpses of that second time (including my infant sister sleeping in the car with us), but I was 6 when Empire came out, and by then I was a big fan playing with all the action figures and toys. I still have all those toys packed away in boxes in my basement.
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Post by Von K on Jun 29, 2017 12:23:27 GMT -5
I think the original trilogy of films is great - inspiring authentic and unpretentious space opera adventure. Having Leigh Brackett involved with the screenwriting of Empire Strikes Back was icing on the cake.
I liked many aspects of the prequels, though the overall execution was flawed. This is partly because charting the fall of a great character into darkness is always narratively difficult (and grueling for the audience). Casting Ray Parks as Darth Maul was genius, and his fight against Obi Wan and Qui Gon was awesome. Christopher Lee as Count Dooku is another highlight.
I've not seen the new Disney ones.
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Post by andys on Jun 29, 2017 14:08:23 GMT -5
I probably saw Star Wars for the first time in one of its initial revivals/theatrical extensions. I was probably a tad too young to have a vivid recollection of it - I just knew I had seen it and really liked it. I saw Empire with my dad at a big old-style movie house and we liked it so much that we sat through two straight showings - still one of my favorite theater-going experiences. When I got a bit older, my friends and I went through this odd phase in high school and college in which we were watching the movies almost every week. It's probably because of that that I've seen the original movie far more than any other movie I've seen.
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Post by Char-Vell on Jul 25, 2017 10:13:46 GMT -5
I probably saw it when it was re-released (six months?) later, as I remember most of my classmates having seen it and talking about it for sometime before it showed back up in the theatre.
I was of course blown away and my mind altered in strange ways.
How does everyone feel about Rogue One?
I felt it was the Star Wars movie I've wanted for 40 years.
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Post by johnnypt on Jul 25, 2017 10:44:20 GMT -5
The most interesting part of Rogue One I thought was the fact that the suits made the filmmakers change the HAPPY ending, where everybody lives, to the one we got. We lost some great shots thanks to the reshoots (Jyn going after the TIE fighter with just a blaster really could have been iconic, just the part in the trailer leaves a strong impression), but the film was made stronger overall
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Post by Char-Vell on Jul 25, 2017 12:11:27 GMT -5
The most interesting part of Rogue One I thought was the fact that the suits made the filmmakers change the HAPPY ending, where everybody lives, to the one we got. We lost some great shots thanks to the reshoots (Jyn going after the TIE fighter with just a blaster really could have been iconic, just the part in the trailer leaves a strong impression), but the film was made stronger overall I read somewhere that there were alternate endings written, but everyone dies in all of them...
but I haven't researched it very much at all.
I wonder if some of that stuff in the trailer wasn't filmed as a red herring for the fans from the get-go.
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Post by johnnypt on Jul 25, 2017 13:08:53 GMT -5
I heard a lot about the alternate endings as well. Whichever one they chose had at least some of the team surviving and it just didn't work, hence the reshoots. I don't think anything was a red herring, it just got shuffled out. That's why for now anyway, there's not deleted scenes on the HV releases. Someday, I think it'd be great for them to release the alternate ending and have the voice over with the creative team on why it didn't work (or why they thought). I just thought it was a bold move for TPTB, who are usually all in favor of giving the audience happier endings, to say, "Nope, they gotta go".
One scene in the series that simply should never have been cut is from, yes, Episode One: the scene where Anakin and Qui Gon prepare to leave the city when one of Darth Maul's probe droids finds them. Liam slashes it out of the air and they start running. In the move as it is, they're running in the middle of the desert for no reason. I'm also partial to Yoda landing on Dagobah in Episode 3, they said it messed up the pacing at the end...it's, what, 10 seconds?!?
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Post by Char-Vell on Jul 25, 2017 13:26:06 GMT -5
I heard a lot about the alternate endings as well. Whichever one they chose had at least some of the team surviving and it just didn't work, hence the reshoots. I don't think anything was a red herring, it just got shuffled out. That's why for now anyway, there's not deleted scenes on the HV releases. Someday, I think it'd be great for them to release the alternate ending and have the voice over with the creative team on why it didn't work (or why they thought). I just thought it was a bold move for TPTB, who are usually all in favor of giving the audience happier endings, to say, "Nope, they gotta go". One scene in the series that simply should never have been cut is from, yes, Episode One: the scene where Anakin and Qui Gon prepare to leave the city when one of Darth Maul's probe droids finds them. Liam slashes it out of the air and they start running. In the move as it is, they're running in the middle of the desert for no reason. I'm also partial to Yoda landing on Dagobah in Episode 3, they said it messed up the pacing at the end...it's, what, 10 seconds?!? The pacing at the end was among the least of their problems with that one.
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Post by finarvyn on Jul 26, 2017 6:18:09 GMT -5
How does everyone feel about Rogue One? I felt it was the Star Wars movie I've wanted for 40 years. I thought it was awesome to be able to drive home from the theater and watch A NEW HOPE on my telly right after. The two movies blend together very well (Rogue One and ANH could be numbered IVa and IVb) and I felt like only a few hours had passed from one to the other. My daughter was never a big ANH fan until she got to see the two back-to-back.
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Post by Erik on Jul 26, 2017 8:25:07 GMT -5
How does everyone feel about Rogue One? I felt it was the Star Wars movie I've wanted for 40 years. Me too - I loved it. I'd rank it right up there with the original trilogy, probably after 'Empire' and 'A New Hope'.
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Post by Char-Vell on Jul 26, 2017 8:27:08 GMT -5
How does everyone feel about Rogue One? I felt it was the Star Wars movie I've wanted for 40 years. Me too - I loved it. I'd rank it right up there with the original trilogy, probably after 'Empire' and 'A New Hope'. Agreed, that's where I'd rank it too.
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