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Post by Voorqual on Aug 23, 2017 10:10:19 GMT -5
Is there much information on this alien world which is apparently home to demon plants and god-like elephant beings? I recall it being mentioned in "The Scarlet Citadel" and slightly detailed in "The Tower of the Elephant." Was it mentioned in any other of Howard's tales?
I wonder if REH intended Yag to be the Hyborian equivalent of Lovecraft's Yuggoth, a world of various alien horrors which Conan would occasionally encounter.
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Aug 23, 2017 13:23:22 GMT -5
in our PICTURE CLUB topic i posted a lot of speculative art & captions about various creatures that could be on /from planet Yag. Entertaining fun and possibilities, and some great art.  |
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Post by Voorqual on Aug 23, 2017 17:25:57 GMT -5
in our PICTURE CLUB topic i posted a lot of speculative art & captions about various creatures that could be on /from planet Yag. Entertaining fun and possibilities, and some great art. Ah? Any particular examples? I myself almost want to write a story set on Yag, but no doubt it would disappoint my own expectations. XD |
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Post by zarono on Aug 23, 2017 20:59:54 GMT -5
Is there much information on this alien world which is apparently home to demon plants and god-like elephant beings? I recall it being mentioned in "The Scarlet Citadel" and slightly detailed in "The Tower of the Elephant." Was it mentioned in any other of Howard's tales? I wonder if REH intended Yag to be the Hyborian equivalent of Lovecraft's Yuggoth, a world of various alien horrors which Conan would occasionally encounter. Best I can remember Yag is only mentioned those 2 stories. I've often wondered the same thing, Yag the Accursed is no doubt the spawning ground of many wondrously weird and nightmarish things  |
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Post by Voorqual on Aug 23, 2017 22:01:43 GMT -5
Is there much information on this alien world which is apparently home to demon plants and god-like elephant beings? I recall it being mentioned in "The Scarlet Citadel" and slightly detailed in "The Tower of the Elephant." Was it mentioned in any other of Howard's tales? I wonder if REH intended Yag to be the Hyborian equivalent of Lovecraft's Yuggoth, a world of various alien horrors which Conan would occasionally encounter. Best I can remember Yag is only mentioned those 2 stories. I've often wondered the same thing, Yag the Accursed is no doubt the spawning ground of many wondrously weird and nightmarish things Indeed! Perhaps you have the imagination/necromantic sources to best depict such things at some point in your art.  |
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Aug 23, 2017 22:30:14 GMT -5
in our PICTURE CLUB topic i posted a lot of speculative art & captions about various creatures that could be on /from planet Yag. Entertaining fun and possibilities, and some great art. Ah? Any particular examples? I myself almost want to write a story set on Yag, but no doubt it would disappoint my own expectations. XD Yes, a short tale or poem about Yag would be nice. As long as you mention Yag Kosha's elephantine-mutant clan. You could invent almost anything weird for your tale? Be bold and fly to Yag with your camera and notebook? |
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Post by Char-Vell on Aug 24, 2017 7:35:45 GMT -5
Is there much information on this alien world which is apparently home to demon plants and god-like elephant beings? I recall it being mentioned in "The Scarlet Citadel" and slightly detailed in "The Tower of the Elephant." Was it mentioned in any other of Howard's tales? I wonder if REH intended Yag to be the Hyborian equivalent of Lovecraft's Yuggoth, a world of various alien horrors which Conan would occasionally encounter. Best I can remember Yag is only mentioned those 2 stories. I've often wondered the same thing, Yag the Accursed is no doubt the spawning ground of many wondrously weird and nightmarish things I dunno, Yag Kosha seemed like a pretty chill dude, Yag might be a pretty nice place to hang out.
The Pensacola of the cosmic gulfs.
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Post by zarono on Aug 24, 2017 8:27:00 GMT -5
Best I can remember Yag is only mentioned those 2 stories. I've often wondered the same thing, Yag the Accursed is no doubt the spawning ground of many wondrously weird and nightmarish things I dunno, Yag Kosha seemed like a pretty chill dude, Yag might be a pretty nice place to hang out.
The Pensacola of the cosmic gulfs.
Just some speculations on Yag gained through intense meditation in the fumes of the Black Lotus and whimsical daydreams while enjoying a plate of General Tso's Chicken; Yag definitely has beings on both side of the good and evil spectrum, apparently the Kings of Yag appear to lean toward the bad since they ran off the obviously decent Yogah and his brethren. Perhaps after that struggle Yag was overwhelmed by evil and so became known by the name Pelias called it, "Yag the Accursed". Yogah calls Yag "the green planet" and the only other known entity of that world is the plant Yothga, Yogah seemed pretty comfortable dwelling in the lost jungles of Khitai, so maybe Yag is a jungle covered world. Based on Pelias's comments on Yothga some Hyborian age sorcerers know a little bit about Yag, perhaps this knowledge comes from Yogah himself speaking to his worshipers during his happier times and those tales being recorded in various grimoires over the millennia (references in the Book of Skelos maybe), or perhaps there is some connection between Yag and Earth (wormhole?) and other entities from Yag have appeared on Earth, or perhaps the knowledge comes from some type of astral projection or scrying. Maybe all of the above. |
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Post by Char-Vell on Aug 24, 2017 9:44:19 GMT -5
I dunno, Yag Kosha seemed like a pretty chill dude, Yag might be a pretty nice place to hang out.
The Pensacola of the cosmic gulfs.
Just some speculations on Yag gained through intense meditation in the fumes of the Black Lotus and whimsical daydreams while enjoying a plate of General Tso's Chicken; Yag definitely has beings on both side of the good and evil spectrum, apparently the Kings of Yag appear to lean toward the bad since they ran off the obviously decent Yogah and his brethren. Perhaps after that struggle Yag was overwhelmed by evil and so became known by the name Pelias called it, "Yag the Accursed". Yogah calls Yag "the green planet" and the only other known entity of that world is the plant Yothga, Yogah seemed pretty comfortable dwelling in the lost jungles of Khitai, so maybe Yag is a jungle covered world. Based on Pelias's comments on Yothga some Hyborian age sorcerers know a little bit about Yag, perhaps this knowledge comes from Yogah himself speaking to his worshipers during his happier times and those tales being recorded in various grimoires over the millennia (references in the Book of Skelos maybe), or perhaps there is some connection between Yag and Earth (wormhole?) and other entities from Yag have appeared on Earth, or perhaps the knowledge comes from some type of astral projection or scrying. Maybe all of the above. The celestial brown sauce of the orient fires my imagination as well....here's more speculation.
In the Marvel Adaption and other illustrations, Yogah is depicted as a dude with an elephant head. In the Dark Horse adaption, he was more like an elephantine-esque humanoid, which got me thinking: We see the event thru Conan's eyes. the closest thing in Conan's experience that approximated Yogah's appearance was an elephant (and Conan had not even seen an elephant in person at that point). Yogah was proabably more alien and bizarre than is usually depicted.
I also feel Yogah's narrative to Conan about being " swept through space on mighty wings that drove us through the cosmos quicker than light" ect. sounds like a being from an advanced, space-faring culture trying to explain itself to a primitive in terms that said primitive (Conan) could accept.
I assume Yogah and company arrived on earth in spacecraft. when the ship or ships (or Vimanas!) fell into disrepair and ceased functioning, that's when 'the wings withered from thier shoulders".
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Post by zarono on Aug 24, 2017 10:05:19 GMT -5
You can't go wrong with Vimanas! I still prefer to think the Yaggites had actual space-wings though, functioning similar to Lovecraft's Mi-Go wings in Whisperer in Darkness:
"The things come from another planet, being able to live in interstellar space and fly through it on clumsy, powerful wings which have a way of resisting the ether but which are too poor at steering to be of much use in helping them about on earth."
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Post by Char-Vell on Aug 24, 2017 10:25:38 GMT -5
You can't go wrong with Vimanas! I still prefer to think the Yaggites had actual space-wings though, functioning similar to Lovecraft's Mi-Go wings in Whisperer in Darkness: "The things come from another planet, being able to live in interstellar space and fly through it on clumsy, powerful wings which have a way of resisting the ether but which are too poor at steering to be of much use in helping them about on earth." Soaring on the stellar winds.... |
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Post by Voorqual on Aug 24, 2017 10:50:59 GMT -5
Excellent use of Black Lotus, Zarono! Your findings are similar to what I imagined. I always saw Yag as this planet covered largely in bizarre jungles, with perhaps many species of monstrous killer plants. The inhabitants are probably so god-like they could even tame the jungle with ease. I as well wondered if the Book of Skelos made mention of Yag, or otherwise some other grimoire, if sorcerers seem to know about it. Just speculation. I too subscribe to the idea that Yogah's race just naturally have wings designed for interstellar flight, like Lovecraft's Mi-Go and Elder Things, but vimanas sound so much like something Yogah would utilize too! And I, too, believe it's more likely that Yogah looks less like an elephant-headed man and more like some elephantine humanoid creature. My friend KingOvRats had that in mind when he designed old Yag:  |
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Post by zarono on Aug 24, 2017 10:54:08 GMT -5
Soaring on the stellar winds.... Full on majestic, Starhawk shows how it's done:  |
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Post by Char-Vell on Aug 24, 2017 11:50:19 GMT -5
Excellent use of Black Lotus, Zarono! Your findings are similar to what I imagined. I always saw Yag as this planet covered largely in bizarre jungles, with perhaps many species of monstrous killer plants. The inhabitants are probably so god-like they could even tame the jungle with ease. I as well wondered if the Book of Skelos made mention of Yag, or otherwise some other grimoire, if sorcerers seem to know about it. Just speculation. I too subscribe to the idea that Yogah's race just naturally have wings designed for interstellar flight, like Lovecraft's Mi-Go and Elder Things, but vimanas sound so much like something Yogah would utilize too! And I, too, believe it's more likely that Yogah looks less like an elephant-headed man and more like some elephantine humanoid creature. My friend KingOvRats had that in mind when he designed old Yag: That's a great design! |
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Post by Char-Vell on Aug 24, 2017 11:51:52 GMT -5
Soaring on the stellar winds.... Full on majestic, Starhawk shows how it's done: Gettin' there in style! |
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