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Post by Taurus on Mar 20, 2019 8:26:41 GMT -5
These Glénat books are so much better than anything Marvel is doing. It is embarrassing.
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Post by Peter on Mar 20, 2019 8:42:27 GMT -5
I would love to see Cinebook do these adaptions in English, in a hardcover like they have just recently done with the Valerian complete collection volumes. The books are done identical to their French counterpart complete collections ( except for the language of course, and maybe some nudity), and it is very easy to order from the UK to anywhere in the world. That way Marvel does not have to be involved at all. Someone on another board mentioned they were having a problem having something to the US from the UK and it looked like it might have involved copyright issues (a reprint of a Hanna Barbera comic book of all things!) So that would possibly get them in English, but getting them to the US may still have a hurdle or two. I have always ordered them through Cinebook themselves or Book Depository and have had no problem having them sent to Australia. I think if you order from any UK bookshop you should have no trouble. I am of course speaking from experience of getting them sent to Australia though, not the U.S.. Is it a customs thing regards the U.S. ?
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 20, 2019 8:51:57 GMT -5
Someone on another board mentioned they were having a problem having something to the US from the UK and it looked like it might have involved copyright issues (a reprint of a Hanna Barbera comic book of all things!) So that would possibly get them in English, but getting them to the US may still have a hurdle or two. I have always ordered them through Cinebook themselves or Book Depository and have had no problem having them sent to Australia. I think if you order from any UK bookshop you should have no trouble. I am of course speaking from experience of getting them sent to Australia though, not the U.S.. Is it a customs thing regards the U.S. ? Could be. In that other poster's case, the rights were owned by Hanna Barbera, who is owned by Warners, so if that is the problem for him (open question but Occam's razor and all), I would think Conan would run into a similar situation. Elric's comic rights in the US seem to be unclaimed at the moment so getting those collections would possibly be less of a problem.
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Post by Condottiero Magno on Mar 20, 2019 9:00:11 GMT -5
Someone on another board mentioned they were having a problem having something to the US from the UK and it looked like it might have involved copyright issues (a reprint of a Hanna Barbera comic book of all things!) So that would possibly get them in English, but getting them to the US may still have a hurdle or two. I have always ordered them through Cinebook themselves or Book Depository and have had no problem having them sent to Australia. I think if you order from any UK bookshop you should have no trouble. I am of course speaking from experience of getting them sent to Australia though, not the U.S.. Is it a customs thing regards the U.S. ? Unlike the UK and the mainland, there are no customs charges for books and toys/models/miniatures, unless ordered at a several thousand Dollar level. What might be a factor is postage fees: UK shipping charges tend to be reasonable, but mainland rates can be ridiculous. Copyright issue is new to me: might be an issue with importers, but at an individual level - these aren't DVDs?
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 20, 2019 9:39:29 GMT -5
The guy had mentioned he hadn't had a problem getting anything shipped before from the UK, it was this one book in particular. Could be any number of reasons, but the fact it was a licensed product is what jumped out.
I can't imagine Marvel would let someone else publish a Conan related comic in English without either their permission or involvement for strictly legal contract reasons if nothing else. It's not something that would heavily eat into the bottom line, but if a small company can do it and "get away with it", what about a larger one?
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Post by Condottiero Magno on Mar 20, 2019 10:46:08 GMT -5
The guy had mentioned he hadn't had a problem getting anything shipped before from the UK, it was this one book in particular. Could be any number of reasons, but the fact it was a licensed product is what jumped out. I can't imagine Marvel would let someone else publish a Conan related comic in English without either their permission or involvement for strictly legal contract reasons if nothing else. It's not something that would heavily eat into the bottom line, but if a small company can do it and "get away with it", what about a larger one? Did he bother to ask? From where did he attempt to order the book? My curiosity's piqued...
I recall some restrictions involving licensing and distribution, but third party sellers easily circumvent it, hence different editions of university textbooks on Amazon and irate students.
AFAIK, Marvel just regional rights, like the Duracell Bunny, so nothing to stop someone from offering a translation of Glénat's Conan in the EU. Why would Marvel want to offer translations of a potential competitor's version of REH?
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 20, 2019 11:18:29 GMT -5
AFAIK, Marvel just regional rights, like the Duracell Bunny, so nothing to stop someone from offering a translation of Glénat's Conan in the EU. Why would Marvel want to offer translations of a potential competitor's version of REH?
That's the main rub, why do something where they aren't 100% in control. They might want to do their own versions someday, even though that's not in the cards right now.
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Post by Peter on Mar 20, 2019 23:44:43 GMT -5
I have always ordered them through Cinebook themselves or Book Depository and have had no problem having them sent to Australia. I think if you order from any UK bookshop you should have no trouble. I am of course speaking from experience of getting them sent to Australia though, not the U.S.. Is it a customs thing regards the U.S. ? Unlike the UK and the mainland, there are no customs charges for books and toys/models/miniatures, unless ordered at a several thousand Dollar level. What might be a factor is postage fees: UK shipping charges tend to be reasonable, but mainland rates can be ridiculous. Copyright issue is new to me: might be an issue with importers, but at an individual level - these aren't DVDs? I have noticed the postage rates differ greatly between the UK and the US. A book from the UK to Australia is usually anywhere between US$6-$12, whereas from the US to Australia usually starts at US$23 but you can find some offering at US$14. So if I can find the same book in the UK, I prefer to buy from there. The Glenat editions I buy direct from a bookseller in France and their rates are usually around US$23 as well. For now I am quite happy being overawed by the spectacular artwork in these editions, and I can follow the stories easily enough from their familiarity, though it would be nice to read it in English. I hope someone decides to do it sooner rather than later.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:49:12 GMT -5
Here's a review of the Scarlet Citadel adaption from the Sci-Fi Universe website (Thanks to googletranslate). Comic Book Review: The Scarlet Citadel # 5 [2019], by NURTHORThe fall of King Conan to the rank of prisoner Conan King of Aquilonia left with his army to help his ally King Amalrus of Ophir to repel barbarians on his southern border. But he does not return from this military campaign ... Only Flavio, his minstrel, is back on the back of bear and bearer of horrible news on his king Conan taken prisoner. This is panic among the people of Tamar. The terrible wizard Tsotha-Lanti by treachery with his black magic managed to neutralize him and make him his prisoner. The civil war flares up in Tamar without the king. The mercenaries attack the population directly by looting it. The Prince Arpello de Pelelia, a direct descendant of the former King of Aquilonia, sent the rest of the army to destroy them for treason, hoping to win the respect of the inhabitants of the city.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:54:13 GMT -5
The Scarlet Citadel Review, Part 2. While Conan descended to the bottom of a 3,000-year-old cave where terrifying monsters are hiding in order to compel him to sign his unconditional surrender for the benefit of Arpello de Pelelia. Conan, faithful to himself, tries everything to get out of it, even confides in the magic he hates from Pélias, who is also a prisoner, and shows, as usual, unexpected resources to overcome his captivity. But will it succeed and under what conditions? Luc Brunschwig, in the screenplay, has been able to draw intriguing and important elements while placing them slightly differently from the chronology of the original novel to give us the best projection for comics. The plot keeps the suspense alive and accentuates the horror of the terrifying monsters that Conan encounters in captivity.
In drawing Étienne Le Roux has the care of the details and the precise line which give beautiful visions of the movements but also feelings and moods of the characters. The battle scene where King Conan finds himself alone in front of the army of his enemies, shows perfectly the rage and the animal side of the Cimmerian and his fatigue just with his illustrations.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 16:04:35 GMT -5
The Scarlet Citadel Review, conclusion. The misunderstanding of the natural mental schemas at home, the civilized men, is currently very well staged with this King Conan prisoner who does not understand how his enemies can imagine a second that he, the wild Cimmerian, can deny himself . This 5th volume of the Conan the Cimmerian saga of the Glénat editions, corresponds to the fifth news on Conan that Robert E. Howard wrote in 1932 and whose Patrice Louinet assured the reissue of all the original and refined texts of all the additions or further deformations, as well as their translations into French. All details about the Conan saga are presented by SFU there. Massive with its 72 pages, this first edition of the comics features an exclusive bonus Patrice Louinet explaining the historical context of the news from which this comic is drawn as well as a tribute with splendid boards of different artists. The comic ideally and faithfully presents the news of Howard for our greatest pleasure. A collector's edition will come out all in black and white with a slightly larger size to showcase the gorgeous designs. You can rush on this Wednesday, March 27, 2019!NURTHOR's conclusion about the Comic Book: The Scarlet Citadel # 5 [2019]
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Once again Glénat hits hard with this new opus of the wise Conan the Cimmerian!
A King Conan weakened because prisoner and yet full of resources sometimes almost bestial and surhaime and is always as unpredictable for us civilized men!
Link: www.scifi-universe.com/critiques/9417/la-citadelle-ecarlate
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Post by stubbs on Mar 27, 2019 16:15:17 GMT -5
Didier Cassegrain art for Red Nails, now due out 11th September
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Post by Char-Vell on Mar 28, 2019 6:38:49 GMT -5
Didier Cassegrain art for Red Nails, now due out 11th September I like that Valeria.
Conan looks like I drew him.
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Post by Taurus on Mar 28, 2019 8:13:51 GMT -5
Glenat adaptation of The Scarlet Citadel may well be the best ever done of this tale. It Topples other Scarlet adaptation from Marvel or Dark Horse.
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