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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 25, 2022 14:44:28 GMT -5
I've been on these boards for for 5+ years and between the movie/tv series/book threads, the common theme seems to be that Malmberg is incapable of getting anything done? Yeah he's basically driven the property into the ground at this point. The Dark Horse Conan launch, McFarlane Toys, and Del Rey paperbacks were the high point but that was long ago now. Since then we've had the comics take a nose dive in quality thanks to licensees that don't know what they are doing, a shitty movie that wasted Jason Mamoa, who a whole new franchise could have been built around, and failed tv series and movie reboots out the ass. The biggest coup has been that Conan Exiles game. So he made at least one good licensing deal. I think the Chinese need to bring in a different team to manage the REH catalog. |
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Post by karasuthecrow on Apr 25, 2022 15:50:52 GMT -5
I agree t this point we must be criticall of who Conan Propierties, now Heoric Signatures has handled the IP.
Maybe FUNCOM would need to have a new team to work on their catalog, especially because the clock for public domain keeps running.
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Post by Von K on Apr 25, 2022 18:56:36 GMT -5
It could be a good thing, Fredrik Malmberg and his team need to work harder convincing Netflix that a Conan series is worth their time. If it don't work out with Netflix just keep going until we get a decent movie or series on screen. I dunno how the likes of Amazon, Disney+ and Netflix expect the average family to pay for this stuff under current conditions that will probably get worse in the near future. I've been on these boards for for 5+ years and between the movie/tv series/book threads, the common theme seems to be that Malmberg is incapable of getting anything done? IMO, Instead of trying to get a big payday from Netflix or Amazon (guaranteed to come with heavy (#woke) studio interference), he needs get a proper/interested directer (like Neil Marshall) who could make true to the source material, Conan movie, on a modest budget. Neil Marshall mentioned that he thought here was a gap in the market for lower budget movies where the filmmakers have more creative freedom. The new Red Sonja has a budget of 35 million. Another option is for a small dedicated animation studio to make something with a far lower budget using the latest software. The technology is starting to get damned impressive these days - Unreal Engine 5 for example: Unreal Engine 5 EnvironmentsCharacters etc |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 5:44:23 GMT -5
I've been on these boards for for 5+ years and between the movie/tv series/book threads, the common theme seems to be that Malmberg is incapable of getting anything done? IMO, Instead of trying to get a big payday from Netflix or Amazon (guaranteed to come with heavy (#woke) studio interference), he needs get a proper/interested directer (like Neil Marshall) who could make true to the source material, Conan movie, on a modest budget. Neil Marshall mentioned that he thought here was a gap in the market for lower budget movies where the filmmakers have more creative freedom. The new Red Sonja has a budget of 35 million. Another option is for a small dedicated animation studio to make something with a far lower budget using the latest software. The technology is starting to get damned impressive these days - Unreal Engine 5 for example: Unreal Engine 5 EnvironmentsCharacters etc
Interesting that you bring up Unreal engine. Sony has been investing in the parent company that makes it and some are speculating that it is precisely so they can use it in their future films.
The skills from making cgi movies and games are somewhat changeable and a former movie studio put out a game last year called Kena, so its possible as the tech gets better they can just use game engines to make movies rather than having dedicated software.
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Post by karasuthecrow on Apr 26, 2022 10:21:02 GMT -5
Computer animation could be a little cheaper than a live action but they are still a little costly.
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Post by johnnypt on Apr 26, 2022 10:55:51 GMT -5
Computer animation could be a little cheaper than a live action but they are still a little costly. It'd be cheaper than a big budgeted epic, but not something like what Iron Shadows was looking to do. I think I mentioned over on the gaming thread that the games these days are little films with interactive portions. I was watching my son play one of the Spider Man games, it's as thought out a story as any of the movies (and I'd argue maybe even more than the Garfield films). If they would look towards doing adaptations via that method, I'd say go for it. |
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Post by wulfhere on Apr 26, 2022 11:12:21 GMT -5
Political backlash against Disney might finally put an end to the copyright extensions in the US, which would bring Conan into worldwide public domain. If Disney then pivots to the sort of trademark abuse we've seen with Conan then that too might be dealt with.
Select words used in public domain works should not be allowed to become trademarks in order to create a backdoor copyright extension.
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Post by johnnypt on Apr 26, 2022 12:52:18 GMT -5
Chapek picked two fights at the wrong time: first with Scarlett Johansson then with the state of Florida, and he looks to have lost both badly. I would definitely expect over the next year or so all the copyright and trademark laws to be given a new once over. Disney got a lot of leeway over the years but they look to have gone all in on the wrong hand. People now see the giant doesn’t have the pull it used to. Whether this will lead to a more wide open playing field when it comes to older IPs is an open question but I’d say now is more likely than ever before.
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Post by attilaman66 on Apr 26, 2022 19:11:09 GMT -5
I just finished binge watching “Spartacus” and I gotta say, I really hope this Conan project leaves Netflix. It would be nice for it to end up on a platform where Steven DeKnight can spearheaded this again. I have heard other Directors and creators say once they complete a film or project in a certain genre, they want to continue because they learn so much the first time. DeKnight could bring much knowledge and experience.
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Post by hyrkanian on Apr 27, 2022 1:30:49 GMT -5
I just finished binge watching “Spartacus” and I gotta say, I really hope this Conan project leaves Netflix. It would be nice for it to end up on a platform where Steven DeKnight can spearheaded this again. I have heard other Directors and creators say once they complete a film or project in a certain genre, they want to continue because they learn so much the first time. DeKnight could bring much knowledge and experience. +1 |
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Post by Monster on May 1, 2022 4:07:52 GMT -5
Netflix has now cancelled a number of shows and even announced they're closing their animation studio. (wasn't there talk of an animated movie to go along with the series?) It looks like they might be more careful with their investments going forward an let's face it, Conan just isn't the valuable property that we all want it to be. There is a good chance we'll never see anything from netflix. I'll stay positive for now, but its not looking good.
The announcement of everything they were initially planning on doing simply stated "animation." Was one of the things I was greatly looking forward to.
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Post by alexander on May 1, 2022 5:25:02 GMT -5
The problem with a low budget movie is that we won't see an epic battle or gorgeous settings. We may even end up with dreadful CGI. Remember all the cheap fantasy movies we had in the 80s?
Also without the support of a studio marketing - very costly these days - will be very limited and worldwide distribution could be an issue (like for Solomon Kane).
I fear an independent, low budget movie would either be atrocious or quite good but seen by barely anyone (again like SK).
By the way, when I started this thread if I had known we would still be speculating about this potential project 18 months ago I would have shut up :-)
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Post by johnnypt on May 1, 2022 7:24:36 GMT -5
The problem with a low budget movie is that we won't see an epic battle or gorgeous settings. We may even end up with dreadful CGI. Remember all the cheap fantasy movies we had in the 80s? Also without the support of a studio marketing - very costly these days - will be very limited and worldwide distribution could be an issue (like for Solomon Kane). I fear an independent, low budget movie would either be atrocious or quite good but seen by barely anyone (again like SK). By the way, when I started this thread if I had known we would still be speculating about this potential project 18 months ago I would have shut up :-) It's not your fault they can't seem to get their act together  |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 14:57:50 GMT -5
 John Buscema's Conan that kinda looks like Henry Cavill and another rendition based on Alan Ritchson (Reacher). is killing it as Jack Reacher |
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Post by Von K on May 5, 2022 16:24:23 GMT -5
John Buscema's Conan that kinda looks like Henry Cavill and another rendition based on Alan Ritchson (Reacher). is killing it as Jack Reacher Thanks Hun. A couple of impressive renditions there. |
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