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Post by theironshadow on Nov 3, 2020 7:44:20 GMT -5
You can bulk up a suitably framed actor to play Conan, but you can't teach a meathead wrestler or ex sporting star to be the next Anthony Hopkins or Daniel Day Lewis. Get someone with solid acting ability and with a huge amount of time (again we recall Momoa's rush to pack on the muscle) get him to hit the gym with a personal trainer. I'm not going to make casting suggestions, because right now there is no-one i can think of who could play Conan in his mid-twenties. We're back to an open casting call worldwide.
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Post by swordofcrom on Nov 4, 2020 21:24:46 GMT -5
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; Joel Kinnamon from Altered Carbon on a hypertrophy-focused plan, give him a tan and you’ll have a great, intimidating, confident performance with a very tall and a rugged look that won’t turn the women away.
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Post by theironshadow on Nov 5, 2020 7:01:10 GMT -5
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; Joel Kinnamon from Altered Carbon on a hypertrophy-focused plan, give him a tan and you’ll have a great, intimidating, confident performance with a very tall and a rugged look that won’t turn the women away. Kinnaman is a solid choice, but that blocks Netflix from adapting the 'early years' stories, unless they digitally de-age the actor to be in his early 20's. Still think for the longrun the Producers are going to look at casting someone who was Jason Momoa's age at the oldest (31 in 2011) for the show.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 8:46:02 GMT -5
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; Joel Kinnamon from Altered Carbon on a hypertrophy-focused plan, give him a tan and you’ll have a great, intimidating, confident performance with a very tall and a rugged look that won’t turn the women away. Kinnaman is a solid choice, but that blocks Netflix from adapting the 'early years' stories, unless they digitally de-age the actor to be in his early 20's. Still think for the longrun the Producers are going to look at casting someone who was Jason Momoa's age at the oldest (31 in 2011) for the show. Considering most Netflix shows are cancelled after 2 or 3 seasons I don't think they should be casting someone with the intention of them ageing and covering Conan's entire life. It would be better to cast a good actor regardless of their age and just tell the stories as taking place around the same time period in Conan's life, so not much time difference between Tower of the elephant and red nails for example. They'll have to take some creative liberties to make the show work.
I can't imagine netflix would spend the money to de-age the actor when most people won't know the difference and really, as long as we have the stories adapted well, would it be a big deal if his age was slightly off?
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Post by theironshadow on Nov 6, 2020 8:40:35 GMT -5
Kinnaman is a solid choice, but that blocks Netflix from adapting the 'early years' stories, unless they digitally de-age the actor to be in his early 20's. Still think for the longrun the Producers are going to look at casting someone who was Jason Momoa's age at the oldest (31 in 2011) for the show. Considering most Netflix shows are cancelled after 2 or 3 seasons I don't think they should be casting someone with the intention of them ageing and covering Conan's entire life. It would be better to cast a good actor regardless of their age and just tell the stories as taking place around the same time period in Conan's life, so not much time difference between Tower of the elephant and red nails for example. They'll have to take some creative liberties to make the show work.
I can't imagine netflix would spend the money to de-age the actor when most people won't know the difference and really, as long as we have the stories adapted well, would it be a big deal if his age was slightly off?
No problems with that, but i'd like to think that they would leave themselves some breathing space for the arc of the narrative, rather than Conan raiding the Tower Of The Elephant and then we have him waging war 3 years later as King in The Hour Of The Dragon. An entire season could be dedicated towards his adventures with Belit. The fact that 98% of the Conan adventures are short stories and novella's is a blessing in disguise, as fully adapting a book is something different altogether. Netflix The Witcher was a turn-off with me due to the way the story was told, and i've read the first 4 books.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 14:45:23 GMT -5
I think something like introducing Conan as a pirate could be an interesting direction for them to take in the 1st season. They really need to demonstrate that REH's Conan is not some dumb brute in a fur loincloth!
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Post by theironshadow on Nov 8, 2020 7:47:19 GMT -5
I think something like introducing Conan as a pirate could be an interesting direction for them to take in the 1st season. They really need to demonstrate that REH's Conan is not some dumb brute in a fur loincloth! The fact that we are finally here with a 'backer' for a new Conan television series after we have had so much dreck foisted our way in the last 35+ years is something of monumental importance; this series could be for Conan what The Witcher video games were to an 'at the time' little-known fantasy character. Malmberg isn't just handing off the rights to out Cimmerian, he is front-and-center creatively, and that means undoing every wrong that's been created since Ahnuld strapped on the fur nappy. I have total faith is Mr M and his creative associates.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 8:19:46 GMT -5
I think something like introducing Conan as a pirate could be an interesting direction for them to take in the 1st season. They really need to demonstrate that REH's Conan is not some dumb brute in a fur loincloth! The fact that we are finally here with a 'backer' for a new Conan television series after we have had so much dreck foisted our way in the last 35+ years is something of monumental importance; this series could be for Conan what The Witcher video games were to an 'at the time' little-known fantasy character. Malmberg isn't just handing off the rights to out Cimmerian, he is front-and-center creatively, and that means undoing every wrong that's been created since Ahnuld strapped on the fur nappy. I have total faith is Mr M and his creative associates. I don't have total faith. But, I'm willing to wait and see how this latest venture unfolds.
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Post by terryallenuk on Nov 8, 2020 13:52:02 GMT -5
Same here , I'll wait and see as he led us to believe better for Conan 2011 than it turned out.
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Post by johnnypt on Nov 8, 2020 14:29:03 GMT -5
Wait and see or in more modern vernacular, trust but verify.
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Post by theironshadow on Nov 9, 2020 9:07:21 GMT -5
Same here , I'll wait and see as he led us to believe better for Conan 2011 than it turned out. There seems to be some confusion over how much power that Fredrik Malmberg had as a Producer on Conan 2011. His position was one of Creative partner who could bring tremendous assets based on previously developed media projects, and with that, make important creative suggestions that would be acted upon, provided it didn't cause financial or pragmatic problems for the film shoot. There was no way that the head of CPI wasn't going to be involved with the film, and Lionsgate et al were more than happy to have him onboard, but if his create dictates would cause problems with the film shoot in the form of further delays or additional financial expenditure, they fell on deaf ears. Fred Malmberg would have wanted the film to turn out differently by degrees. His creative suggestions were either absorbed or met with compromise. Leading us on to the new series, i believe Malmberg has staunch creative control only veto'd by Netflix themselves. This new series is the relaunch of Conan as a character and property that Malmberg has been trying to attain for years. No way is he in the same servile position he was back in 2011.
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Post by Lonewolf on Nov 20, 2020 12:14:13 GMT -5
Same here , I'll wait and see as he led us to believe better for Conan 2011 than it turned out. There seems to be some confusion over how much power that Fredrik Malmberg had as a Producer on Conan 2011. His position was one of Creative partner who could bring tremendous assets based on previously developed media projects, and with that, make important creative suggestions that would be acted upon, provided it didn't cause financial or pragmatic problems for the film shoot. There was no way that the head of CPI wasn't going to be involved with the film, and Lionsgate et al were more than happy to have him onboard, but if his create dictates would cause problems with the film shoot in the form of further delays or additional financial expenditure, they fell on deaf ears. Fred Malmberg would have wanted the film to turn out differently by degrees. His creative suggestions were either absorbed or met with compromise. Leading us on to the new series, i believe Malmberg has staunch creative control only veto'd by Netflix themselves. This new series is the relaunch of Conan as a character and property that Malmberg has been trying to attain for years. No way is he in the same servile position he was back in 2011. I have heard his name mentioned on these boards/threads, but does Malmberg seem like someone who "get's"/is a fan of Conan? or is the property just an investment for him?
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Post by boot on Nov 20, 2020 13:48:50 GMT -5
You can bulk up a suitably framed actor to play Conan, but you can't teach a meathead wrestler or ex sporting star to be the next Anthony Hopkins or Daniel Day Lewis. Get someone with solid acting ability and with a huge amount of time (again we recall Momoa's rush to pack on the muscle) get him to hit the gym with a personal trainer. I'm not going to make casting suggestions, because right now there is no-one i can think of who could play Conan in his mid-twenties. We're back to an open casting call worldwide. Remember, Arnold wasn't an actor. His first starring role was his first real movie (having a string of TV appearances and not counting the incredibly low budget Hercules where Arnold was dubbed), Conan The Barbarian. In the DVD discussion, Arnold says that Milius would feed him lines, tell him how to react, how to look, and get Arnold to mimic him. The result was pretty doggone good, I'd say. Not saying this is a great practice, though. I think Milius got lucky.
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Post by johnnypt on Nov 20, 2020 15:41:27 GMT -5
You can bulk up a suitably framed actor to play Conan, but you can't teach a meathead wrestler or ex sporting star to be the next Anthony Hopkins or Daniel Day Lewis. Get someone with solid acting ability and with a huge amount of time (again we recall Momoa's rush to pack on the muscle) get him to hit the gym with a personal trainer. I'm not going to make casting suggestions, because right now there is no-one i can think of who could play Conan in his mid-twenties. We're back to an open casting call worldwide. Remember, Arnold wasn't an actor. His first starring role was his first real movie (having a string of TV appearances and not counting the incredibly low budget Hercules where Arnold was dubbed), Conan The Barbarian. In the DVD discussion, Arnold says that Milius would feed him lines, tell him how to react, how to look, and get Arnold to mimic him. The result was pretty doggone good, I'd say. Not saying this is a great practice, though. I think Milius got lucky. Well, Bob Rafelson and Hal Needham softened Arnold up for Milius.
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Post by BlackHeart on Dec 7, 2020 3:29:45 GMT -5
So, I've listen entire interwiew with Malmberg, and from what he said in the end about Netflix series project, its not all hope lost - as most of us and other fans around the world afraid the most - that Conan as a character would be reduced and rebuild by modern day standard and rotten agendas. Man said that no one wish to make family friendly Conan, and that its kinda weird to ask "politicly corected" wiews in HYBORIAN world, and prehistoric times. Executives Aparently understand that and have idea of a masive franchise, conserning the succes of GoT and the Witcher. And, he's directly involved with this so, we can hope for some good stuff in the end. Of course, one can Only hope, but, who knows... Maybe its finaly came time for justice when it comes to our favorite Cimmerian. Im not overly optimistic, but, some things said here definitely fuels my hope
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