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Post by monolith on Dec 7, 2020 12:10:16 GMT -5
Thank you for posting this video. Very insightful into the machinations of film production. I feel a debt of gratitude to Fredrik for persevering with the Conan brand for most of his life. I had no idea he has guided and promoted Conan for so long.
After all the trials and tribulations he has endured over the years, it is good to hear that he feels very positive with the ongoing Netflix situation.
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Post by theironshadow on Dec 7, 2020 12:34:08 GMT -5
Thank you for posting this video. Very insightful into the machinations of film production. I feel a debt of gratitude to Fredrik for persevering with the Conan brand for most of his life. I had no idea he has guided and promoted Conan for so long. After all the trials and tribulations he has endured over the years, it is good to hear that he feels very positive with the ongoing Netflix situation. One of the reasons that i feel the new Conan series is going to be treated with the level of respect like adaptations such as Jackson's Lord Of The Rings and Netflix The Witcher, is that this series will be the cornerstone for a re-launch of Conan into the media-verse the likes we haven't seen for decades. I think it was ballsy for Malmberg to say that his new series will be better than the Witcher, and for him to answer the oft-asked question about Conan having to be changed for modern audiences. This new series if done right is where Conan finally enters the mainstream media, to stand alongside GoT and of course The Witcher.
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Post by kemp on Dec 7, 2020 19:31:05 GMT -5
If they make Conan for the 'mainstream' like GoT than it will be doomed, it might start out promising enough before being reduced into a straight up cuck fest to shove sjw politics down the audience throats.
Despite what is being said in some of the commentary about 'Howard's Conan being back' I will have to wait and see the end product when it comes to a Conan streaming series to be convinced that the powers that be will not turn it into just another lifeless and awkward agenda driven vehicle.
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Post by BlackHeart on Dec 8, 2020 2:03:07 GMT -5
That's why I said, Kemp, that not all hope is lost. Yet. But, nothing is promise either way, so, both posibilities are in the air... I dont want that any of you here get me wrong, I hate no one, and have nothing against any one, but, I'll always wage war against every forced agenda and imposed false values that mainstream forces upon humanity. I mean, what happend? Everyone's balls drop of this days? What happened to those quiet and glorious times when movies were made and stories worth remembering were told? Instead of a good story, we get sparkly, poorly packaged propaganda, and we "have to" swallow it because of a few noisemakers who are too sensitive that have to force recognition for something that 99% of people doesn't even care about. I rely on Malmberg, and I place my hopes in representing the real Howard's vision because, if Conan is going to be adapted to everything he ISN'T, it's better not to do it at all!
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Post by kemp on Dec 8, 2020 3:04:39 GMT -5
That's why I said, Kemp, that not all hope is lost. Yet. But, nothing is promise either way, so, both posibilities are in the air... I dont want that any of you here get me wrong, I hate no one, and have nothing against any one, but, I'll always wage war against every forced agenda and imposed false values that mainstream forces upon humanity. I mean, what happend? Everyone's balls drop of this days? What happened to those quiet and glorious times when movies were made and stories worth remembering were told? Instead of a good story, we get sparkly, poorly packaged propaganda, and we "have to" swallow it because of a few noisemakers who are too sensitive that have to force recognition for something that 99% of people doesn't even care about. I rely on Malmberg, and I place my hopes in representing the real Howard's vision because, if Conan is going to be adapted to everything he ISN'T, it's better not to do it at all! Well said BlackHeart, and you shouldn't let naysayers hold you back from telling it like it is. I' don't doubt Malmberg's sincerity in bringing Howard's vision of Conan to the small screen, merely expressing concerns that the vision will be watered down by other production forces when and if it is made and distributed on Netflix or related streaming services. Despite my criticisms of GoT, the Mandalorian is ok, and does not seem to pander all that much to the sensitivities of that loud and very vocal minority, so it is possible that Conan may be treated right. Will shall see.
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Post by robp on Dec 8, 2020 4:42:29 GMT -5
If they make Conan for the 'mainstream' like GoT than it will be doomed, it might start out promising enough before being reduced into a straight up cuck fest to shove sjw politics down the audience throats. What??
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Post by lordyam on Dec 8, 2020 16:00:42 GMT -5
Have to agree with that. SJW is often a snarl word for people who think that non whites and non straight people deserve fair representation. Dark Horse found a balance (there are middle eastern characters who are sympathetic and likable as well as those who are evil). It's a fine balance; some stories or plot points may have to be change but if Conan really is an enduring franchise it can survive a few minor tweaks.
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Post by johnnypt on Dec 9, 2020 9:39:05 GMT -5
I think for most of its run, GoT was able to walk the line of pushing all kinds of boundaries while maintaining story integrity (Seasons 7 & 8...that's another story).
Just watched the end of Fred's interview and all credit to him for being as forthcoming as he could about the things that have happened over the years. The good thing about the approach here is that you have the room for all kinds of approaches. You can have one that's more pulp based and one that might have a bit more of a modern tinge to it. The key is getting the FIRST one right. Set the baseline properly. Just because someone doesn't want to see unnecessary changes doesn't make them an idiot or a bigot or whatever. There are going to be changes because stuff from the 30s is not going to translate in a straight line to today. When I was doing my Lensmen scripts 20+ years ago, it was tough at times to maintain Doc Smith's story but lose some of the elements that dated it and it had nothing to do with how certain people were treated. The 1994 Shadow film didn't handle this aspect well at all, it tried to be both pulpy and modern and failed at both. A lot of Burroughs stories would need the same treatment just to get the story to work in a reasonable fashion (wait, what's Tarzan doing in Wisconsin?!?).
There's nothing I heard in that interview that would give me any immediate cause for concern. It may all come crashing down in the next few weeks or months but they seem to be operating from the right starting point.
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Post by conqueror on Dec 18, 2020 18:45:35 GMT -5
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Post by Monster on Dec 19, 2020 17:01:00 GMT -5
It is worth noting these were based off of Henry Cavill's appearance. He is The Witcher, however. I think these were posted elsewhere on this board, somewhere?
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Post by Monster on Dec 19, 2020 17:15:46 GMT -5
Remember, Arnold wasn't an actor.
And it shows. Arnold's been type-cast for roles suited to him: dumb barbarian, robot, meathead (for the most part) military men, etc. And it worked well. Taking nothing from Arnold, he is an incredibly smart man. His acting also improved throughout his career.
I have hope for the Netflix series as Malmberg does indeed know Howard's Conan. However, he communicates and posts far too many references of Arnold's Conan — and that gives me great pause. I get it, he's a business man, and there are many fans of Arnold's Conan.
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Post by Grim Wanderer on Dec 20, 2020 11:22:24 GMT -5
Remember, Arnold wasn't an actor.
And it shows. Arnold's been type-cast for roles suited to him: dumb barbarian, robot, meathead (for the most part) military men, etc. And it worked well. Taking nothing from Arnold, he is an incredibly smart man. His acting also improved throughout his career.
I have hope for the Netflix series as Malmberg does indeed know Howard's Conan. However, he communicates and posts far too many references of Arnold's Conan — and that gives me great pause. I get it, he's a business man, and there are many fans of Arnold's Conan.
To the population at large, Arnold is Conan and Malmberg must take that into consideration for good or ill.
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Post by monolith on Dec 21, 2020 15:58:23 GMT -5
I would imagine that every fanboy director, writer, actor and concept designer are polishing up their résumés right now. This project will hopefully attract some real talent.
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Post by BlackHeart on Dec 22, 2020 7:47:34 GMT -5
We hope so. I still naively hope for Miguel Sapochnik or Neil Marshall. Though, Im almost certain thats not gonna happend
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Post by KiramidHead on Dec 22, 2020 11:24:07 GMT -5
I can see them going to Sapochnik considering how enthusiastic Malmberg sounded about him for Legend of Conan. Marshall might need to take some time off to get some distance from Hellboy's reception.
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