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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 8:13:19 GMT -5
Arnold Schwarzenegger Details the Hold Up on ‘King Conan’ Projectwww.bleedingcool.com/2019/03/04/arnold-schwarzenegger-details-the-hold-up-on-king-conan-project/ Just this past weekend, Schwarzenegger spoke with TheArnoldFans.com about what the hold up actually is, and how steadfast he’s been in his efforts to get it made. “When it comes to the movie, the sad stuff about all of this is when there’s an estate like this, The Robert E. Howard estate…when someone buys these rights, those people now own the rights and they have their own vision of what they want to do and the guy that has the rights is some young guy and he’s trying to figure out how to get his way through Hollywood and this is not easy to do. So there are people that say to him, ‘why don’t you start with a TV series and then he negotiates for a TV series and that falls apart.
And then he goes maybe to Netflix and that falls apart. Then he decides to make a movie maybe…but in the meantime, we have been trying to convince him for years now that the way to go is to come back and hire a really great director and to do another Conan movie and have me play King Conan, when Conan is like 70 years old and he’s disgusted by sitting on the throne and being the king and then something happens after that. It’s really not that far from creating a finished script. The only one who really has to pull the trigger there is the people who own the Conan rights to do a movie. Let’s go to Netflix or whoever it is, let’s hire a director who’s very creative and can elevate the project to make it a winning project. I hope it will be done very soon because I think it’s a great idea.” Here's the 'young guy' post from March last year. |
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Post by johnnypt on May 12, 2020 9:11:56 GMT -5
Is it me or is most of Arnold's information in that video seriously misinformed? He talks about the Howard Estate (perhaps he simply means Cabinet and Malmberg), a young guy who wants to use the rights to get into Hollywood, and how that is causing problems? Unless Ryan Condal still has those rights from his pitch to Amazon, then Cabinet would bite the hand off of any studio with clout that wanted to go down the King Conan route or could do justice to a Conan television drama. What's your take on it, guys? As Hun mentioned, the video is just a compendium of the known info over the past few years. Arnold seemingly knows less about what's going on than we do!  The window for this project probably closed about 4 years ago. From what's out there, the rights have gone back to Cabinet after the Amazon deal didn't happen, but who knows if they had a Marvel/Netflix type of wait period before doing something else. We're coming up on two years since Amazon passed on the project so maybe something will start moving by the end of the year...or would have had all this not happened (If you're putting your eggs in the Marvel basket, Falcon & Winter Solider and Wandavision have resumed production or at least have been given the ok, the movies are still in a holding pattern but things are moving behind the scenes). |
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Post by theironshadow on May 12, 2020 16:09:48 GMT -5
Thanks for that, Johnny. Two years down the line and we don't get a statement from Mr Malmberg about this project having long since been cancelled. If Terminator: Dark Fate had been a moderate success, i believe the likes of Universal or Lionsgate would have taken a chance on a King Conan film with a budget close to what Conan 2011 allegedly cost. Conan fans should know what media projects outside of the comics and video games are actively in development.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 12:10:43 GMT -5
 It's Time to Add 'The Legend of Conan' to the List of "Old Man" Sequels
Wolverine and Rambo have had their big farewell moments on the screen, and Arnold Schwarzenegger’s famous Cimmerian deserves one too.filmschoolrejects.com/legend-of-conan/ |
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Post by johnnypt on Jul 28, 2020 13:16:30 GMT -5
Lost me at "Hollywood is open to more Conan films"...
Conan the Conqueror needed to be done somewhere between Predator and Total Recall. But I guess Red Sonja probably soured him on the genre for quite a while. And Rambo may not have had his farewell after all.
Logan is sort of a lightning in a bottle moment of a lot things coming together just the right way at just the right time. Eastwood returned to westerns from time to time before Unforgiven. In this case, it seems like just something else for Arnold to do.
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Post by terryallenuk on Jul 28, 2020 13:33:52 GMT -5
I'm still amazed how these folks have kept churning out the same old news every few months for the last ten years! Must be costing Arnie a pretty penny if he's paying for it LOL!
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Post by johnnypt on Jul 28, 2020 14:05:13 GMT -5
I'm still amazed how these folks have kept churning out the same old news every few months for the last ten years! Must be costing Arnie a pretty penny if he's paying for it LOL! Yeah, you just keep hoping for some little sliver of new news to actually show up but...no... I do love how in the article they blew off the Amazon show while playing up every single failed attempt at this picture. That actually the potential to be something special but...no... |
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Post by theironshadow on Jul 29, 2020 5:28:02 GMT -5
I'm still amazed how these folks have kept churning out the same old news every few months for the last ten years! Must be costing Arnie a pretty penny if he's paying for it LOL! Yeah, you just keep hoping for some little sliver of new news to actually show up but...no... I do love how in the article they blew off the Amazon show while playing up every single failed attempt at this picture. That actually the potential to be something special but...no... If Hollywood had wanted to make this Old Man Conan film they would have done so by now; they aren't waiting for anything, and there is nothing stopping them from getting it into production, so therefore, it's not going to happen, and Arnold needs to stop touting it like there is any chance of it ever happening. Really not a fan of articles that deal with borderline fan-speculation hypotheticals. Absolutely pointless. I'd be more interested in why the projects from Condal and Morgan didn't happen; Morgan is Universal's golden boy with him being screenwriter on seven of the Fast And Furious franchise movies... |
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Post by johnnypt on Jul 29, 2020 7:46:27 GMT -5
Yeah, you just keep hoping for some little sliver of new news to actually show up but...no... I do love how in the article they blew off the Amazon show while playing up every single failed attempt at this picture. That actually the potential to be something special but...no... If Hollywood had wanted to make this Old Man Conan film they would have done so by now; they aren't waiting for anything, and there is nothing stopping them from getting it into production, so therefore, it's not going to happen, and Arnold needs to stop touting it like there is any chance of it ever happening. Really not a fan of articles that deal with borderline fan-speculation hypotheticals. Absolutely pointless. I'd be more interested in why the projects from Condal and Morgan didn't happen; Morgan is Universal's golden boy with him being screenwriter on seven of the Fast And Furious franchise movies... I think the Amazon show probably died for the reasons we've speculated on and looking at what's developed there since then, it's only reinforced that idea for me. I'll probably be watching Lord of the Rings and Wheel of Time, but they could've been developed alongside a Conan series. The PTB (or more precisely she) didn't want to do it, simple as that. Morgan's a more interesting case. You'd think his success with the F&F series would've given him more pull, especially as the series progressed and became more and more successful. But I guess they figure they could get anyone to write these things (which isn't true, you have to have a feel for the characters and the beats of the action in movies like this). I used to think either a really big star or director could get it done. You look at how Jason's career has shot up, he's been able to do things on streaming services almost at a whim. But I doubt even he'd be able to get a Conan show done these days. |
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Post by theironshadow on Jul 30, 2020 5:56:18 GMT -5
I think it's simply case of internally competing franchises. Netflix is not only working on more Witcher, but doing a prequel series; Amazon is spending stupid money on it's Middle Earth: the Second Age Tolkien series, so why dilute things with Howard's character? So where else does the Cimmerian go to? Disney+ is probably out of the picture, HBOmax could be an option, but this needs a streaming service with serious clout behind it.
As for Universal, with the billions they have made from The Fast And Furious franchise, dropping a modest amount on a grounded Conan film would cost them peanuts. They saw success albeit a number of years ago with The Scorpion King. More drama, less wirework stunts, keep it a 15 or 18 rating and test the waters.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jul 30, 2020 21:39:52 GMT -5
The other issue is this damn pandemic. It's been going on since March and there's no end in sight. Everyone is being more selective about what they consume and produce. We're in a bottleneck and it's going to make it really tough for a Conan project to get made, let alone an Arnie 80s sequel.
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Post by KiramidHead on Jul 30, 2020 21:53:03 GMT -5
The Legend script is basically impossible to film now anyways, now that Von Sydow has passed.
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Post by theironshadow on Jul 31, 2020 5:40:22 GMT -5
The other issue is this damn pandemic. It's been going on since March and there's no end in sight. Everyone is being more selective about what they consume and produce. We're in a bottleneck and it's going to make it really tough for a Conan project to get made, let alone an Arnie 80s sequel. Jason, the number of doors open to a Conan television production are diminishing in number, based on the reasons i mentioned before; I'm really not sure what avenues are open to pitching a new Conan series. The fact that Malmberg in the last 2 years (shall we say One year based on the Rights issue?) doesn't have a 3rd party interested in some form is not good news; like, Amazon wanted to make a Conan series, from a named screenwriter. What, no takers? As for an Arnold-Conan project, i think that we as fans need to realise that such a thing is as dead as it gets. Arnold talks it up a great deal, because Conan is one of his most iconic roles. It's just not going to happen, be it an original work or based on some other property. What other options do you all think are viable to get our favourite barbarian back on the screen? |
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Post by crimsonblade on Aug 1, 2020 4:05:16 GMT -5
Does anyone think that with Ablaze publishing some of the REH stories based off public domain laws, possibly opens up the chances for movies based on the same stories being made? Have Conan Properties allowed them to do this, or is it more a case of Conan Properties not wanting to take a chance in court and the ruling going against their favor in terms of public domain?
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Post by theironshadow on Aug 1, 2020 5:15:25 GMT -5
Does anyone think that with Ablaze publishing some of the REH stories based off public domain laws, possibly opens up the chances for movies based on the same stories being made? Have Conan Properties allowed them to do this, or is it more a case of Conan Properties not wanting to take a chance in court and the ruling going against their favor in terms of public domain? If a European film maker chooses to make a Conan-based film, let's say for the sake of argument French director Louis Leterierre, calling it The Cimmerian: Red Nails and it isn't challenged by CPI, then no-one is going to want to make a Conan-based film outside of Europe unless CPI is willing to sell the rights for absolute chump-change. Why bother if foreign film makers can freely adapt the public domain works under a different title? Personally, Hollywood has missed the boat entirely, and treated Conan with zero respect in the last 35 years, from Destroyer, to the Moeller tv series and the cash-grab Momoa film. Conan made by first-class European film makers? I certainly hope so, particularly since Uwe Boll has retired. After all, if the film is great, we win. if the film is terrible, then hey, it wasn't official. What's to lose?  |
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