warriors of the steppe in movies, music and art

[hun]

A song performed by Aina in the Evenki language (related to the Manchurian language of Tungusic origin) - these guys have conquered China for longer periods than the Turkic and Mongolic peoples and I tend to neglect them on this thread, hopefully this helps to somewhat make amends:


AINA - Yoharyo (Official Music Video)


Here's a little introduction on the Evenks and their Tungusic origins by Aina from her YouTube Channel:


Songs of the Upper World: Evenk Folk Tunes and Spirituality

[hun]

Interesting video on the ancient Bulgars:


Old Great Bulgaria: Origins, Culture and Legacy of the Ancient Bulgars

Description:
The 7th century was a time of great upheaval in the Eurasian Steppe Belt. As the Turkic Khaganate, the first transcontinental Turkic Empire in history, pushed into Europe, it drove several steppe people to the west, notably the Avars. But a certain group of nomadic warriors located in modern-day Ukraine persisted in all of these arrivals: the Bulgars. These Turkic people spoke Oguric, the same Turkic dialect that was prevalent among the Huns in Europe and the White Huns in Central Asia, and are synonymous with the Onogur, a successor state to the Hunnic Empire of Attila. After the Turkic Empire’s complete disintegration, pressure from the Khazars and the newly arriving Majars made the Bulgar tribes leave their home, embarking on a journey to the southwest.

There, they founded the First Bulgar Empire and consolidated their rule in the northeast Balkans. In the following centuries, the Bulgars waged many wars against the Avars in the west, Magyars in the north, and the mighty Byzantine Empire in the east. As more nomadic Turkic peoples arrived from the steppe, including the Pechenegs and the Kipchak, the Bulgarians' identity was changing. Over time, they converted to Orthodox Christianity, and mixed with Slavic peoples, in the process adopting the Slavic language. While the political affairs of the Bulgarian Empire are well known, its pre-history – the history of Old Great Bulgaria – remains relatively obscure. We have mentioned the Bulgars many times on this channel, and will finally explore their complete history: from their roots among the Onogur people, to their traditions and culture, a possible connection to the Dulo tribe of the Göktürks, and their most prominent leaders.

[hun]

Here's a song in the Sart Kalmyk language. They are the descendants of the Oirat forest peoples of Genghis Khan's time and the song is in the Kalmyk Mongolian language. They number around 12,000 (According to Mongolian Authorities in 2012) and live in the Kyrgyz Republic:



Sart Kalmyk song

Description:
Documentary about oirat mongols who migrated in 17 century to West Asia and settled down in Kyrgyzstan among Turkic people.
Approximately 10 thousand oirat mongols known as sart kalmyks live in nowadays Kyrgyzstan in Boru Bash region.
Sart Kalmyks are converted to Islam and almost completely abandoned their language and mongolic tradition.
In this video are last villagers who still remembers their oirat mongolic language.
The old man is trying to remember the song from his childhood, the song is about parents and home.

Wiki link:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sart_Kalmyks

[hun]

Fastest migration in human history undertaken by Avars
Words by Gabriela Peringerová, eng Nick Orsillo



Researcher Zuzana Hofmanová played a key role in solving the 1,400-year-old riddle of where the Avars came from. It took them only ten years to get from Mongolia to Central Europe.



A multidisciplinary research team of geneticists, archaeologists, and historians from several institutes in Europe, Asia, and North America, including Zuzana Hofmanová from the Department of Archaeology and Museology of the Faculty of Arts of Masaryk University, obtained the first human genomic data about the origins of the Avars. The research was published in the April issue of the prestigious scientific journal Cell.

The Avars were the more successful successors to Attila’s Huns and ruled a large part of Central and Eastern Europe for nearly 250 years. In the Czech Republic they are known for being the enemies of the Slavs and foes of Samo’s Empire. According to earlier research, the Avars came from somewhere in Central Asia in the sixth century AD, but both ancient authors and modern historians and archaeologists long speculated about where exactly they originated – whether they came mainly from western Eurasia or whether they were the descendants of the Mongolian Rouran Khanate, a mighty foe of China. Despite years of debate among historians and archaeologists, the exact origins of the Avars in the expansive steppes of Europe and Asia remained a mystery.

Now, with the help of DNA, a team of geneticists, archaeologists, and historians, of which Zuzana Hofmanová is a member, has solved this 1,400-year-old riddle. They have obtained the first human genomic data from the most prominent Avar sites discovered in what is today Hungary and discovered the genetic origins of the Avar elite in a far-away region in north-eastern Asia. In the study, they present direct genetic evidence of one of the farthest and fastest migrations in human history.

As part of archaeogenetic research, the scientists analysed the remains of 66 individuals from the Carpathian Basin, including from eight of the richest Avar graves ever discovered (in one of them they found, for example, 2.3 kg of gold). Many artefacts from these graves are on display at an exhibition that recently opened in Schallaburg, Austria. Archaeogenetic analysis was conducted on other individuals from the Carpathian Basin before and after the Avar period. By historically contextualizing the genetic analyses, the researchers were able to pinpoint the timing of the Avars’ migration. Over the course of several years, they travelled more than 5,000 kilometres from today’s Mongolia to the Caucuses, and within another ten years they settled in the Carpathian Basin. This was the fastest documented migration of such a long distance in human history.

“There were clear genetic links with populations from north-eastern Asia, including an individual directly from the Rouran Khanate. We also found that the Avar elites of the seventh century sometimes had up to 20 to 30 percent different genetic origins, probably associated with the north Caucasus and the western Asian steppes, which could indicate later migration from the steppes after the arrival of the Avars in the sixth century,” says Zuzana Hofmanová, an archaeogeneticist and the co-author of the study.

East Asian descent was mainly found in individuals from the assumed centre of the Avar Khanate between the Danube and Tisza Rivers in modern central Hungary. “Outside the region of primary settlement, we find great genetic variability, especially at the south Hungarian site of Kölked. This suggests that the incoming Avar group ruled a varied population with the help of a heterogenous elite. Interestingly, the Avar elite maintained their East Asian ancestry for a long time, even though they were surrounded by populations of local origin. This suggests that either people were in continual motion across the entire Eurasian steppe or that this group was relatively genetically isolated, perhaps as a result of cultural habits,” explains Hofmanová.

The research findings indicate, among other things, the great potential of cooperation between geneticists, archaeologists, historians, and anthropologists in studying the migration period in the first millennium. “This period in which many European borders as we know them today were formed will be the subject of further research. We still know much less than is generally assumed,” adds Hofmanová. The study was produced as part of the ERC-funded HistoGenes project studying the period between 400 and 900 AD in the Carpathian Basin.

Source:
www.em.muni.cz/en/science/15366-fastest-migration-in-human-history-undertaken-by-avars

[kemp]

Mar 31, 2024 23:20:13 GMT -5 hun said:

Interesting video on the ancient Bulgars:


Old Great Bulgaria: Origins, Culture and Legacy of the Ancient Bulgars

Description:
The 7th century was a time of great upheaval in the Eurasian Steppe Belt. As the Turkic Khaganate, the first transcontinental Turkic Empire in history, pushed into Europe, it drove several steppe people to the west, notably the Avars. But a certain group of nomadic warriors located in modern-day Ukraine persisted in all of these arrivals: the Bulgars. These Turkic people spoke Oguric, the same Turkic dialect that was prevalent among the Huns in Europe and the White Huns in Central Asia, and are synonymous with the Onogur, a successor state to the Hunnic Empire of Attila. After the Turkic Empire’s complete disintegration, pressure from the Khazars and the newly arriving Majars made the Bulgar tribes leave their home, embarking on a journey to the southwest.

There, they founded the First Bulgar Empire and consolidated their rule in the northeast Balkans. In the following centuries, the Bulgars waged many wars against the Avars in the west, Magyars in the north, and the mighty Byzantine Empire in the east. As more nomadic Turkic peoples arrived from the steppe, including the Pechenegs and the Kipchak, the Bulgarians' identity was changing. Over time, they converted to Orthodox Christianity, and mixed with Slavic peoples, in the process adopting the Slavic language. While the political affairs of the Bulgarian Empire are well known, its pre-history – the history of Old Great Bulgaria – remains relatively obscure. We have mentioned the Bulgars many times on this channel, and will finally explore their complete history: from their roots among the Onogur people, to their traditions and culture, a possible connection to the Dulo tribe of the Göktürks, and their most prominent leaders.

Very insightful video. One of the great Turkic peoples of Europe, in the same way that the Magyar and Avar peoples had an important input in influencing central European character, the same could be said of the Bulgars when it came to the Balkans. The Bulgars gave the country it's name, that is Bulgaria, but Balkan may be a form of early Turkic for land, or it may be Ottoman Turkish for 'wooded mountains' or 'mountain'. You are probably better able to set the record straight on that aspect.  

It is interesting to note that so many of the nomadic people that moved into Europe actually came from homelands in the far east, not just over the border, but actually traversing the length and breadth of the steppes, some originally dwelling on the eastern shores of north east Asia. 

[hun]

Apr 29, 2024 7:49:45 GMT -5 kemp said:

Mar 31, 2024 23:20:13 GMT -5 hun said:

Interesting video on the ancient Bulgars:


Old Great Bulgaria: Origins, Culture and Legacy of the Ancient Bulgars

Description:
The 7th century was a time of great upheaval in the Eurasian Steppe Belt. As the Turkic Khaganate, the first transcontinental Turkic Empire in history, pushed into Europe, it drove several steppe people to the west, notably the Avars. But a certain group of nomadic warriors located in modern-day Ukraine persisted in all of these arrivals: the Bulgars. These Turkic people spoke Oguric, the same Turkic dialect that was prevalent among the Huns in Europe and the White Huns in Central Asia, and are synonymous with the Onogur, a successor state to the Hunnic Empire of Attila. After the Turkic Empire’s complete disintegration, pressure from the Khazars and the newly arriving Majars made the Bulgar tribes leave their home, embarking on a journey to the southwest.

There, they founded the First Bulgar Empire and consolidated their rule in the northeast Balkans. In the following centuries, the Bulgars waged many wars against the Avars in the west, Magyars in the north, and the mighty Byzantine Empire in the east. As more nomadic Turkic peoples arrived from the steppe, including the Pechenegs and the Kipchak, the Bulgarians' identity was changing. Over time, they converted to Orthodox Christianity, and mixed with Slavic peoples, in the process adopting the Slavic language. While the political affairs of the Bulgarian Empire are well known, its pre-history – the history of Old Great Bulgaria – remains relatively obscure. We have mentioned the Bulgars many times on this channel, and will finally explore their complete history: from their roots among the Onogur people, to their traditions and culture, a possible connection to the Dulo tribe of the Göktürks, and their most prominent leaders.

Very insightful video. One of the great Turkic peoples of Europe, in the same way that the Magyar and Avar peoples had an important input in influencing central European character, the same could be said of the Bulgars when it came to the Balkans. The Bulgars gave the country it's name, that is Bulgaria, but Balkan may be a form of early Turkic for land, or it may be Ottoman Turkish for 'wooded mountains' or 'mountain'. You are probably better able to set the record straight on that aspect.  

It is interesting to note that so many of the nomadic people that moved into Europe actually came from homelands in the far east, not just over the border, but actually traversing the length and breadth of the steppes, some originally dwelling on the eastern shores of north east Asia. 

It'd be real interesting if the Volga Bulgars survived, both politically and linguistically, with a Slavic nation in the Balkans and an Oghuric Turkic speaking Republic on the Volga in Russia.

Here's a rare video on the Volga Bulgars (The 1st Turkic people to convert to Islam, probably to wind up the Jewish Khazars):


Ibn Rusta on the Volga Bulgars (903-913 AD) / Primary Source

Description:
Ahmad ibn Rustah Isfahani, better known as Ibn Rusta was a 10th-century Persian explorer and geographer born in Rosta district, Isfahan, Persia. He wrote a geographical compendium known as Book of Precious Records, based on first hand accounts and his own travels. His information on the non-Islamic peoples of Europe and Inner Asia makes him a useful source for these obscure regions and for the prehistory of the Turks and other steppe peoples.

This is a direct quote from Ibn Rusta, written between 903 and 913.


Crom and Tengri, have you read the comments by the Bulgarians and Turks from the Old Great Bulgaria: Origins, Culture and Legacy of the Ancient Bulgars video?

[kemp]

Apr 30, 2024 15:08:58 GMT -5 hun said:

Apr 29, 2024 7:49:45 GMT -5 kemp said:

It'd be real interesting if the Volga Bulgars survived, both politically and linguistically, with a Slavic nation in the Balkans and an Oghuric Turkic speaking Republic on the Volga in Russia.

Here's a rare video on the Volga Bulgars (The 1st Turkic people to convert to Islam, probably to wind up the Jewish Khazars):


Ibn Rusta on the Volga Bulgars (903-913 AD) / Primary Source

Description:
Ahmad ibn Rustah Isfahani, better known as Ibn Rusta was a 10th-century Persian explorer and geographer born in Rosta district, Isfahan, Persia. He wrote a geographical compendium known as Book of Precious Records, based on first hand accounts and his own travels. His information on the non-Islamic peoples of Europe and Inner Asia makes him a useful source for these obscure regions and for the prehistory of the Turks and other steppe peoples.

This is a direct quote from Ibn Rusta, written between 903 and 913.


Crom and Tengri, have you read the comments by the Bulgarians and Turks from the Old Great Bulgaria: Origins, Culture and Legacy of the Ancient Bulgars video?

Would have been something if Old Great Bulgaria still existed, perhaps the Slavic speaking Bulgaria of the Balkans would never have arisen, different political forces that would not have necessitated the move west into south east Europe.

Than again, there was the case of the later Volga Bulgaria existing at the same time as the Balkan Bulgarian Empire.

Read that other Turks regarded the Bulgars as a ragtag bunch of people, perhaps a little like the Huns who appropriated other ethnicities.

Now the Khazar Khanate is something unique altogether. Turkic people, that is groups in Europe and Asia, that converted away from ancient Tengrism and associated shamanistic beliefs usually took up a form of Islam, Christianity and Buddhism, like most other Eurasian people have done in the course of centuries, but that was not the case with the Khazars, a significant portion of them adopted Judaism, although I know there is debate on how significant it was since many other Khazars practised the other faiths.


On a side note, came across the name Balkars, a Turkic group of the north Caucasus, they also had some association with the Old Bulgaria, and notice the similarity in name to the European Balkan.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkars

Yeah, read some of the comments, and as we know, youtube comments go all over the place for one reason or another when we are talking about historical people doco videos. Too much bullshit about DNA, gets insane, especially with so many Europeans where every nation thinks their ancestors have been in Europe since the Hyborian Age, created 'European civilisation' and that their immediate neighbours came from the other side of the world just yesterday.

[hun]

Here's a video from Khan's Den on the much neglected on this thread ancient Hungarians:


Ancient Hungarians: Origins, Culture and Rise of the Magyars

Description
The political history of Europe was mostly shaped by two phenomena: large, consolidated kingdoms and empires on the one hand and migratory movements from the north and east on the other. While the former is well-known to the public, the many migrations, especially from Asia, are rarely talked about if we leave out the Huns of Attila. Seemingly, after the disintegration of the Hunnic Empire, the migrations by steppe peoples lost importance. But as a matter of fact, the dissolution of the Huns paved the way for even more migrations. Beginning in the 550s, many steppe peoples like the Avars, Göktürks, Bulgars, Pechenegs, and Kipchaks entered the European continent. In between, a particular group called “Magyars” also entered the European continent. They would go on to form the core of Hungarian identity.

The Magyar’s early history was marked by interactions with Turkic empires, shaping their cultural and political development and even writing system. But the most important state was the Göktürk Empire, under which the Magyars lived for nearly a century before moving further west. Passing through modern-day Ukraine, they arrived in the Carpathian Basin – the former home of the Huns. There, the Magyar developed their language, customs, and governance with noticeable Turkic influences. This era saw the rise of important Magyar leaders and the establishment of a distinct political entity. One of the most important leaders was Árpád, who successfully conducted this conquest and founded the eponymous Árpád dynasty. Later, Stephen’s conversion to Christianity and establishment of the Kingdom of Hungary were monumental in solidifying the Magyar presence in Europe.

The subsequent history of the Hungarians is well known. But the era of the ancient Magyars is often overlooked – and complicated. It is time to shed light on these nomadic stepp warriors and establish some facts. First, we’ll explain the geographical origins of the first Magyar tribes and try to understand why they migrated in the first place. Then, we will delve into early Magyar culture and analyze if and how much it had in common with the Finno-Ugric and Turkic cultures. We’ll see how Magyar and Hungarian identity changed over time. And we’ll lastly answer the question if the Hungarians, as their name suggests, really are descendants of Attila and the Huns.

[hun]

Trailers from the TRT Turkish Legends of War/History Docudrama series - thankfully all the trailers have subs in English.

I think we'll start off with Tomyris, described as the 1st Turkish Female Ruler in the video, which is not true, the nomadic Massagetae probably spoke an Iranic language. The Altaic languages were probably spoken somewhere east of the Altai mountains at the time. 


TOMYRIS - THE FIRST TURKISH FEMALE RULER / LEGENDS OF HISTORY TRAILER

The 2nd trailer is based on Modu Chanyu (Mete Han in Turkish), the founder of the Xiongnu Empire. For a change the Turks got actors that look more like Mongolians for this one, it sucks when Anatolian Turks portray ancient Turkic or Mongolian peoples in Turkish TV and Movies. The title of the video with Modu as the founder of Turkish Land Forces is connected to the units of 10 in Turko-Mongol armies consisting of 10, 100, 1,000 and ultimately 10,000 known as Tümen - still exists in the Turkish and Mongol military to this day!

I think this trailer is a little boring, but watch it anyways, if you want.


Founder of Turkish Land Forces: Modu Chanyu Trailer


I like this trailer, not seen this episode, yet.



Gokturk Khans: Ilterish Qaghan, Qapaghan Qaghan, Bilge Qaghan & Kul Tigin Trailer

[bonesaw]

Picked up, "Ironclad" with James Purfoy and Paul Giamatti on DVD.

What am I in for?

[kemp]

May 25, 2024 3:08:36 GMT -5 hun said:

Here's a video from Khan's Den on the much neglected on this thread ancient Hungarians:


Ancient Hungarians: Origins, Culture and Rise of the Magyars

Description
The political history of Europe was mostly shaped by two phenomena: large, consolidated kingdoms and empires on the one hand and migratory movements from the north and east on the other. While the former is well-known to the public, the many migrations, especially from Asia, are rarely talked about if we leave out the Huns of Attila. Seemingly, after the disintegration of the Hunnic Empire, the migrations by steppe peoples lost importance. But as a matter of fact, the dissolution of the Huns paved the way for even more migrations. Beginning in the 550s, many steppe peoples like the Avars, Göktürks, Bulgars, Pechenegs, and Kipchaks entered the European continent. In between, a particular group called “Magyars” also entered the European continent. They would go on to form the core of Hungarian identity.

The Magyar’s early history was marked by interactions with Turkic empires, shaping their cultural and political development and even writing system. But the most important state was the Göktürk Empire, under which the Magyars lived for nearly a century before moving further west. Passing through modern-day Ukraine, they arrived in the Carpathian Basin – the former home of the Huns. There, the Magyar developed their language, customs, and governance with noticeable Turkic influences. This era saw the rise of important Magyar leaders and the establishment of a distinct political entity. One of the most important leaders was Árpád, who successfully conducted this conquest and founded the eponymous Árpád dynasty. Later, Stephen’s conversion to Christianity and establishment of the Kingdom of Hungary were monumental in solidifying the Magyar presence in Europe.

The subsequent history of the Hungarians is well known. But the era of the ancient Magyars is often overlooked – and complicated. It is time to shed light on these nomadic stepp warriors and establish some facts. First, we’ll explain the geographical origins of the first Magyar tribes and try to understand why they migrated in the first place. Then, we will delve into early Magyar culture and analyze if and how much it had in common with the Finno-Ugric and Turkic cultures. We’ll see how Magyar and Hungarian identity changed over time. And we’ll lastly answer the question if the Hungarians, as their name suggests, really are descendants of Attila and the Huns.

Fascinating video, Hungary ( Onogur land ) holds a unique position in central Europe, linguistically Uralic speaking in what is predominantly a Germanic, Slavic and Latin speaking region outside of Hungary. The proud Hungarians are also politically at loggerheads with some of the other EU nations at times, they don't like being told how to manage their own country.

Noteworthy that they originated so far to the east of their present location, the Ural Mountains, some connection to Bashkurdistan.

To complicate matters it mentions a connection between the early Norse, Turkic and Magyar peoples in relation to cosmology and myth, perhaps wider shared steppe influences, also evidence for an early interrelationship between the Turkic and Indo Europeans tribes, not to mention Runic script and the old Turkic alphabet.

Never knew that the early medieval Magyar raids went as far west as Spain, but I do recall something about conflicts with the Franks.

So are the Magyars a Hunnic people ? I would say that there is a component, some connection, culturally, politically and even originally ethnically, but not Huns per say. As the video highlights, both were a steppe people, horse archers with shamanistic practices, but some centuries apart, settled in the same regions. It would be fair to say that something of the Hun, also Avar and other steppe people, survived in central Europe although swept into the mix of later and surrounding tribal federations.

[hyrkanian]

May 28, 2024 6:44:22 GMT -5 bonesaw said:

Picked up, "Ironclad" with James Purfoy and Paul Giamatti on DVD.

What am I in for?

I watched it a long time ago, I remember being annoyed by the camera shake in the action scenes, but the movie is solid 6; its dirty and bloody, and Purefoy is excellent, as always.

[hun]

May 29, 2024 0:56:06 GMT -5 kemp said:

May 25, 2024 3:08:36 GMT -5 hun said:

Here's a video from Khan's Den on the much neglected on this thread ancient Hungarians:


Ancient Hungarians: Origins, Culture and Rise of the Magyars

Description
The political history of Europe was mostly shaped by two phenomena: large, consolidated kingdoms and empires on the one hand and migratory movements from the north and east on the other. While the former is well-known to the public, the many migrations, especially from Asia, are rarely talked about if we leave out the Huns of Attila. Seemingly, after the disintegration of the Hunnic Empire, the migrations by steppe peoples lost importance. But as a matter of fact, the dissolution of the Huns paved the way for even more migrations. Beginning in the 550s, many steppe peoples like the Avars, Göktürks, Bulgars, Pechenegs, and Kipchaks entered the European continent. In between, a particular group called “Magyars” also entered the European continent. They would go on to form the core of Hungarian identity.

The Magyar’s early history was marked by interactions with Turkic empires, shaping their cultural and political development and even writing system. But the most important state was the Göktürk Empire, under which the Magyars lived for nearly a century before moving further west. Passing through modern-day Ukraine, they arrived in the Carpathian Basin – the former home of the Huns. There, the Magyar developed their language, customs, and governance with noticeable Turkic influences. This era saw the rise of important Magyar leaders and the establishment of a distinct political entity. One of the most important leaders was Árpád, who successfully conducted this conquest and founded the eponymous Árpád dynasty. Later, Stephen’s conversion to Christianity and establishment of the Kingdom of Hungary were monumental in solidifying the Magyar presence in Europe.

The subsequent history of the Hungarians is well known. But the era of the ancient Magyars is often overlooked – and complicated. It is time to shed light on these nomadic stepp warriors and establish some facts. First, we’ll explain the geographical origins of the first Magyar tribes and try to understand why they migrated in the first place. Then, we will delve into early Magyar culture and analyze if and how much it had in common with the Finno-Ugric and Turkic cultures. We’ll see how Magyar and Hungarian identity changed over time. And we’ll lastly answer the question if the Hungarians, as their name suggests, really are descendants of Attila and the Huns.

Fascinating video, Hungary ( Onogur land ) holds a unique position in central Europe, linguistically Uralic speaking in what is predominantly a Germanic, Slavic and Latin speaking region outside of Hungary. The proud Hungarians are also politically at loggerheads with some of the other EU nations at times, they don't like being told how to manage their own country.

Noteworthy that they originated so far to the east of their present location, the Ural Mountains, some connection to Bashkurdistan.

To complicate matters it mentions a connection between the early Norse, Turkic and Magyar peoples in relation to cosmology and myth, perhaps wider shared steppe influences, also evidence for an early interrelationship between the Turkic and Indo Europeans tribes, not to mention Runic script and the old Turkic alphabet.

Never knew that the early medieval Magyar raids went as far west as Spain, but I do recall something about conflicts with the Franks.

So are the Magyars a Hunnic people ? I would say that there is a component, some connection, culturally, politically and even originally ethnically, but not Huns per se. As the video highlights, both were a steppe people, horse archers with shamanistic practices, but some centuries apart, settled in the same regions. It would be fair to say that something of the Hun, also Avar and other steppe people, survived in central Europe although swept into the mix of later and surrounding tribal federations.

Even to this day the relationship between the Magyars and Turkic peoples is intriguing. The Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán believes the Hungarians are of Hun-Turkic Kipchak descent and Hungary has gained Observer Status in the Turkic Union!? 



Group Photo with Orban (far left) among Turkic leaders from Europe and Central Asia last year.

[kemp]

Orban probably has more respect for The Organisation of Turkic States than for the European Union, not that I would blame him. The Turkic union might become a noteworthy geopolitical bloc in the world going forward. 

 

[kemp]

'Organization of Turkic States Seeks to Unite Europe With Asia

Continued dialogue between countries from Europe, the Caucasus, and Central Asia suggests that the political climate in the region is changing.

Overall, something new is brewing in Eurasia. Continued dialogue between countries from Europe, the Caucasus, and Central Asia suggests that the political climate in the region is changing. New alliances are growing, and recent developments are helping unite Europe with Asia. These relationships will lead to greater economic prosperity, and will help strengthen the national and energy securities of these regions. There is still much work to be done, but the future seems bright for Eurasia.'

thediplomat.com/2023/11/organization-of-turkic-states-seeks-to-unite-europe-with-asia/

Astana, Kazakhstan