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Post by Grim Wanderer on Jan 30, 2019 14:11:56 GMT -5
That's a pretty solid indication.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 30, 2019 14:21:03 GMT -5
That's a pretty solid indication. In the words of the sage of Montclair, NJ-It ain't over 'til it's over. There's still a chance something might happen...but it doesn't seem likely.
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Post by deepermagic on Jan 31, 2019 10:13:32 GMT -5
That's a pretty solid indication. In the words of the sage of Montclair, NJ-It ain't over 'til it's over. There's still a chance something might happen...but it doesn't seem likely. I'm curious...did Amazon purchase the rights to Conan or was something just 'in the works'? Seems to me like the Condal route is dead, but it would make sense for Amazon not to say anything if they actually purchased the rights. If you still own the rights, you probably wouldn't be putting the word out there that, "No we're not going to do anything with Conan" because the possibility remains that they certainly can. I'm thinking this is like buying a car and letting someone drive it. For a while it looked like Condal was going to be the driver, but for whatever reason, now he's not. You're not just going to junk the car because of that. You're going to put it in the garage and hold on to it until you find another driver.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 31, 2019 12:44:03 GMT -5
In the words of the sage of Montclair, NJ-It ain't over 'til it's over. There's still a chance something might happen...but it doesn't seem likely. I'm curious...did Amazon purchase the rights to Conan or was something just 'in the works'? Seems to me like the Condal route is dead, but it would make sense for Amazon not to say anything if they actually purchased the rights. If you still own the rights, you probably wouldn't be putting the word out there that, "No we're not going to do anything with Conan" because the possibility remains that they certainly can. I'm thinking this is like buying a car and letting someone drive it. For a while it looked like Condal was going to be the driver, but for whatever reason, now he's not. You're not just going to junk the car because of that. You're going to put it in the garage and hold on to it until you find another driver. The words used in all the original stories were "in development". In the "Lord of the Rings" case, the stories say Amazon purchased the rights. In the Wheel of Time case, it was also in development, but four months later, Amazon actually ordered the series (a month after the word started getting around Conan was kaput). They may still have an option on the property, we just don't know. Since there was never anything official one way or the other, we don't know if they passed on Condal's version or the idea altogether. My guess is the latter.
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Post by Peter on Feb 1, 2019 8:48:09 GMT -5
I wonder if there is a time limit on the rights? Could it be possible that if Amazon are not planning to produce anything, that they can offer up the rights to another interested party, or do the rights revert back to whoever sold the rights to Amazon in the first place? Please excuse my ignorance with this, but I was wondering if Disney were at all interested in acquiring the film and TV rights, or do they have them already since Marvel has the comic publishing rights?
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Post by johnnypt on Feb 1, 2019 9:06:24 GMT -5
I wonder if there is a time limit on the rights? Could it be possible that if Amazon are not planning to produce anything, that they can offer up the rights to another interested party, or do the rights revert back to whoever sold the rights to Amazon in the first place? Please excuse my ignorance with this, but I was wondering if Disney were at all interested in acquiring the film and TV rights, or do they have them already since Marvel has the comic publishing rights? Options do expire. I remember about 10 years ago when I enquired about the availability of Doc Smith's Lensmen series, Ron Howard's company had recently optioned them. A few years later, their option expired. Same thing happened to Fox when Daredevil went back to Marvel, they had a certain amount of time to produce something and they chose not to. All moot now of course. Disney would not automatically have film rights to Conan, those are separate from the comic license. For example, whoever's doing the Red Sonja movie has nothing to do with Dynamite Comics. Had the Conan film rights been available, it's possible Disney/Marvel could have negotiated one big package if they wanted. So we just have to sit and wait and see if we can get any info at someone at Howard Days this June.
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Post by Peter on Feb 1, 2019 9:57:41 GMT -5
I wonder if there is a time limit on the rights? Could it be possible that if Amazon are not planning to produce anything, that they can offer up the rights to another interested party, or do the rights revert back to whoever sold the rights to Amazon in the first place? Please excuse my ignorance with this, but I was wondering if Disney were at all interested in acquiring the film and TV rights, or do they have them already since Marvel has the comic publishing rights? Options do expire. I remember about 10 years ago when I enquired about the availability of Doc Smith's Lensmen series, Ron Howard's company had recently optioned them. A few years later, their option expired. Same thing happened to Fox when Daredevil went back to Marvel, they had a certain amount of time to produce something and they chose not to. All moot now of course. Disney would not automatically have film rights to Conan, those are separate from the comic license. For example, whoever's doing the Red Sonja movie has nothing to do with Dynamite Comics. Had the Conan film rights been available, it's possible Disney/Marvel could have negotiated one big package if they wanted. So we just have to sit and wait and see if we can get any info at someone at Howard Days this June. Thank you for clearing that up for me Johnnypt, I didn't think the comics and the film rights would be the same, but better to ask and be sure.
I guess if Disney or any other capable film/TV company, were able to acquire the Film rights and get the right people on board, and produce something that resembles the lands and the cities within the Hyborian age for Conan to play in, they could be on quite a money spinner. I know there are a lot of ifs' there, and many might argue that Conan would only ever be regarded by the mainstream in large, as being connected with Arnold. No disrespect there to Arnold's Conan either, as that movie would have surely led many people to REH's original Conan tales and his other characters.
I surmise that many people even thirty years ago, would not have believed that the world of the 'Lord Of The Rings' could have been adapted so successfully for mainstream audiences in film. I also realise that these two worlds are completely different, but my meaning here is in that an adaption that can stay close to the original source, can be very successful if done correctly.
Hopefully someone can shed some light on what is happening with the film rights soon.
As you imply, it is a waiting game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 10:52:37 GMT -5
From what I remember Amazon passed on a Conan TV series, it's now up to Fredrik Malmberg/Pathfinder Media to sell Ryan Condal's script (or a completely new script) to another studio.
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Post by johnnypt on Feb 1, 2019 11:06:33 GMT -5
From what I remember Amazon passed on a Conan TV series, it's now up to Fredrik Malmberg/Pathfinder Media to sell Ryan Condal's script (or a completely new script) to another studio. That's been the frustrating thing for us fans. We're pretty sure that's what happened, but you do any kind of a search about it, all you get is the reddit thread and the youtube video talking about it from last September. There might be contractual reasons why no one in a real position to know or make the decision has said anything, but there's not a peep from anyone about it, one way or the other. If we don't hear anything else before June, Howard Days seems to be the best place and time to maybe pry a little info out. Even an "I can't talk about it right now" would be something. We're not owed anything, of course, just would be nice to know after the big announcement a year ago.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 11:47:39 GMT -5
From what I remember Amazon passed on a Conan TV series, it's now up to Fredrik Malmberg/Pathfinder Media to sell Ryan Condal's script (or a completely new script) to another studio. That's been the frustrating thing for us fans. We're pretty sure that's what happened, but you do any kind of a search about it, all you get is the reddit thread and the youtube video talking about it from last September. There might be contractual reasons why no one in a real position to know or make the decision has said anything, but there's not a peep from anyone about it, one way or the other. If we don't hear anything else before June, Howard Days seems to be the best place and time to maybe pry a little info out. Even an "I can't talk about it right now" would be something. We're not owed anything, of course, just would be nice to know after the big announcement a year ago. Yeah it is kinda unusual, all the info we have is from the 430Movie podcast in September, with no confirmation of the cancellation by Amazon or Fredrik Malmberg/Ryan Condal. You're right, Howard Days in June will probably be the best time to find out if there is anything in the near future, hopefully we won't have to wait too long.
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