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Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 29, 2023 20:43:53 GMT -5
 Kind of an odd time to be alive with this whole situation. It's kind of crazy how the burden of proof is beginning to shift from, "UFO nuts need to prove to us that aliens exist," to "the Pentagon has to prove to us that aliens don't exist." There's either some secret, advanced tech out there made by someone on Earth, or.... something else entirely. www.newsnationnow.com/vargasreports/witnesses-with-ufo-claims-grow-since-grusch-interview/Liz Jassin
Updated: JUN 28, 2023 / 07:57 PM CDT
(NewsNation) — Journalist Ross Coulthart told NewsNation he suspects there will be multiple public hearings in the wake of whistleblower David Grusch’s UFO claims.
“You have to wonder at what stage does the president intervene?” Coultlart asked during an appearance Wednesday on “Elizabeth Vargas Reports.” “I think it’s catastrophic. … I think the government needs to actually consider some kind of admission because the evidence is overwhelming. The weight of witnesses is becoming extremely strong.”
Earlier this month, Grusch spoke exclusively with Coulthart, reporting for NewsNation, and claimed that the government is covering up evidence that UFOs really are extraterrestrial and that he has seen evidence of a secret crash retrieval program. The Air Force veteran alleged the U.S. has even retrieved bodies from other species.
UFO claims could be positive: ‘X-Files’ E.P.
Grusch isn’t the only high-level government official to come forward with claims about UFOs, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., revealed to NewsNation on Monday. Coulthart said he’s heard from more witnesses since his conversation with Grusch.
“A lot of those people, whilst they deeply admire Grusch for his courage in going public … They’re hoping that within a private hearing of the Congress to give their evidence on camera. … A lot of the evidence that they have to reveal is highly confidential,” Coulthart said.
At the same time, NASA and other government agencies have repeatedly said there is no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity on Earth, attributing most sightings to natural phenomena or human-made objects.
NewsNation’s Brian Entin contributed to this report.
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Post by kemp on Jun 30, 2023 9:52:22 GMT -5
I'm still at the "UFO nuts need to prove to us that aliens exist," part.
When I open my front door and see the aliens right in front of me on my doorstep, and I inspect them myself to prove beyond any doubt that it's actually aliens a foot away from me, maybe I will believe in extraterrestials, but will not care for any 'disclosures' from MSM or government, no ex NASA guy saying he saw 'plenty of aliens' or some politician holding 'alien debris' and declaring 'we have entered a new chapter' or they claim AI has tapped into another dimension and acting as some oracle with alien life form telling us 'obey our politicians'.
I was one of those horrible cynics when they had that pandemic thing who kept asking to be shown the sick camps with the thousands of sick and dying people, no one ever could, just wierd stares, but they wanted me to inject myself with some bio stuff on a leap of faith, so I said forget it.
For those interested in the topic you can check out Jenny and Clayton Morris Redacted show.
"You have 6 months to show your Alien UFO evidence, or else" - US Senate | Redacted w Clayton Morris"
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Post by darthgall on Jun 30, 2023 12:04:40 GMT -5
I heard the joke... funny, but with a grain of truth:
The surest sign there's not aliens is there's no audio tapes of Donald Trump talking about.
"Can you believe it? Incredible. These little grey guys came up to me, with tears in their eyes and said 'SIR!'..."
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 30, 2023 19:44:40 GMT -5
I'm a skeptic as well, but there's definitely something they are hiding from the public, and they've been doing it for a very long time.
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Post by kemp on Jul 1, 2023 1:05:36 GMT -5
I'm a skeptic as well, but there's definitely something they are hiding from the public, and they've been doing it for a very long time. Yes, they are always hiding something from us, whether it's internal corruption, clandestine operations, secret labs and unethical experiments, new weapons in a never ending game of one upmanship against foreign governments and of course us 'untrustworthy masses' that always need to be contained. Keep the info coming Jason, it's an important topic, and if nothing else it will illuminate how governments may use the concept of extraterrestial life to control and manipulate the populations, because in the end it's all about control. |
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Post by kemp on Jul 1, 2023 1:35:29 GMT -5
Makes a crazy kind of sense that in a last desperate bid to control the restless masses that our governments would create a new religion in the form of aliens, and that bureaucrats act as the go between us and the 'higher powers'. It may be safe to assume that if the global elite tell us aliens are our friends then take the opposite view, and vice versa.  ![]() |
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Post by Von K on Jul 2, 2023 17:15:49 GMT -5
The idea of secret UFO retrieval squads always seemed a little odd to me - the notion that supposedly advanced living beings with anti-gravity tech who can cross the vastness of space should suddenly become so accident prone once they get here.
The notion of secret retrieval squads for mopping up our own crashed undercover experimental craft however seems far more likely.
Anyone remember Capricorn One?
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Post by kemp on Jul 2, 2023 19:34:00 GMT -5
The idea of secret UFO retrieval squads always seemed a little odd to me - the notion that supposedly advanced living beings with anti-gravity tech who can cross the vastness of space should suddenly become so accident prone once they get here. The notion of secret retrieval squads for mopping up our own crashed undercover experimental craft however seems far more likely. Anyone remember Capricorn One? That would be more plausible and in the realms of possibility, and I agree about the part regarding accident prone aliens, seems unrealistic how the grays are always crashing and unable to avoid detection from humans playing men in black. Alien speculation, even encouraging the notion in popular culture, would serve as a great distraction.  Great movie. Thinly veiled story about the possibility that the moon landings were faked. ![]() |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jul 3, 2023 6:21:58 GMT -5
NewsNation is really leading the way on this. Regardless of whether or not they are extraterrestrials, this is a big story that none of the big outlets are covering. Tucker Carlson was covering it a bit, but then he got fired by Fox News.
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Post by kemp on Jul 3, 2023 9:12:28 GMT -5
Ever notice that in most youtubes on UFO sightings you get people still pulling out the old grainy photo's, ones like the McMinnville UFO photographs taken back in the 50's, the old disc shaped objects type of thing that smack of a hoax. I also saw one on Redacted where they showed something that wobbled above a tree like it was attached to a string and they acted like it was amazing, and if you didn't believe it was the real deal you were a fool. Of course it's also an industry, people are making money out of books and seminars, paying people to hype it up. You would think that in an era of everyone walking around with a smartphone that there would an explosion of pics, a plethora of undeniable evidence, no need to look at some old grainy photos.  |
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Post by zarono on Jul 3, 2023 9:32:39 GMT -5
The idea of secret UFO retrieval squads always seemed a little odd to me - the notion that supposedly advanced living beings with anti-gravity tech who can cross the vastness of space should suddenly become so accident prone once they get here. The notion of secret retrieval squads for mopping up our own crashed undercover experimental craft however seems far more likely. Anyone remember Capricorn One? I've thought a bit about this a little, seems ridiculous they would would crash but think about how often human spacecraft go haywire, could be they have found some method of crossing the distance in an economical fashion in terms of energy/resources and send out probes all over the universe but their tech isn't flawless (or perhaps some of it is considered expendable and we are just now reaching the point of putting together the pieces we find) Other speculation on ufos; It's often mentioned that if they have been coming here for 1000's of years but their tech hasn't evolved to point where theycan't crash? Could be the the space crossing involves some time distortion, 1000's of years pass on earth but a much smaller amount of time on the origin world. So they get to watch and record our entire history in a few years, if we make any significant advances outside of their methods they can copy them to advance their own tech or prevent us from finding a way off earth with our warlike ways. Ufos are the product of alien Von Nuemann probes, one made it to earth 1000s of years ago and managed to replicate itself into the various crafts that have been seen throughout history. Some of the replicant crafts are limited use and if they crash it's no problem because they've served whatever purpose. Something like the Mars rover Perserverance that brought the drone with it but with the ability to repair and reproduce the drones. |
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Post by kemp on Jul 3, 2023 9:39:12 GMT -5
The way I see it, with all the right conditions for life on Earth, if other intelligent life existed out there it would seem to me that it would exist somewhere on our world, say trolls, beast men and goblins in subterranean caverns and so on. There are tubes on goblin sightings which I will not include here cause it will destroy brain cells, they really need to work on that shit before posting the videos. I still like the one with the guy in the gorilla suit making out like it was bigfoot. A classic.  |
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Post by kemp on Jul 3, 2023 9:45:46 GMT -5
How great were those old 'The World of Unknown' books, as a kid I would find them in my school library. Ghosts, monsters and of course the UFO one.  |
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Post by zarono on Jul 3, 2023 10:01:28 GMT -5
The way I see it, with all the right conditions for life on Earth, if other intelligent life existed out there it would seem to me that it would exist somewhere on our world, say trolls, beast men and goblins in subterranean caverns and so on. There are tubes on goblin sightings which I will not include here cause it will destroy brain cells, they really need to work on that shit before posting the videos. I still like the one with the guy in the gorilla suit making out like it was bigfoot. A classic. Interesting take but away the mythological aspect and trolls goblins etc are variants of homo sapiens, maybe in a sense they have existed, go far or perhaps deep enough into the Earth and maybe some still do.  Patterson Gimlan film? I keep an open mind. |
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Post by zarono on Jul 3, 2023 10:02:02 GMT -5
The way I see it, with all the right conditions for life on Earth, if other intelligent life existed out there it would seem to me that it would exist somewhere on our world, say trolls, beast men and goblins in subterranean caverns and so on. There are tubes on goblin sightings which I will not include here cause it will destroy brain cells, they really need to work on that shit before posting the videos. I still like the one with the guy in the gorilla suit making out like it was bigfoot. A classic. Interesting, but take away the mythological aspect and trolls goblins etc are variants of homo sapiens, maybe in a sense they have existed, go far or perhaps deep enough into the Earth and maybe some still do. Patterson Gimlan film? I keep an open mind. |
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