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Post by darthgall on Jul 12, 2023 13:30:00 GMT -5
Remember folks: next time you're on a plane, ask the person sitting next to you to say, "Ka nama, kaa lajerama." Not just the plane. Checkout lane at grocery store. McDonald's drive thru worker. Mail man...
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Post by kemp on Jul 12, 2023 20:44:30 GMT -5
There is ancient Mayan sarcophagus lid which depicts what some believe to be an ancient noble piloting a rocket ship or some other vessel. The idea was popularised by hobby archaeologist Erik Von Däniken, but more likely a religious depiction of the King's descent into the underworld. There is a whole sub culture of people who believe that aliens built or directed people to build the pyramids and other structures. Myself, I don't subscribe to that point of view. Humans can be ingenious when they put the effort in, and it's not hard to imagine that if we lost our civilisation and someone came across the remains of a Boeing 747 in thousands of years that they may ascribe the 'flying craft' to extra terrestrial intervention.
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Post by kemp on Jul 12, 2023 20:57:45 GMT -5
There is a video compilation floating around where ex American presidents are asked about UFO's, their responses are non committal, no 'yes' or 'no', humour mixed in. Can't find the specific one, but something like this.
'Jimmy Kimmel Asks President George W. Bush to Reveal Government Secrets'
Of course one can argue that 'aliens' are a convenient misdirection in order to focus people away from the real secrets.
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Post by kemp on Jul 12, 2023 21:21:00 GMT -5
Just to play along with this video, notice where aviator John Lear says that the visitors are here for genetic experiments, not necessarily benevolent. Considering the events of the last few years, and the current talk about government disclosure in regards to UFO's we can easily go into very dark places, especially when we consider the interest of governments in mapping our genetic code, the connection with aliens and experimentation on human subjects is of concern, the regeneration of the so called 'grays' who are using us to save their own race is also noted. The lack of interest in the emotional well being of humans is very telling in both regards.
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Post by Von K on Jul 13, 2023 14:28:42 GMT -5
There is ancient Mayan sarcophagus lid which depicts what some believe to be an ancient noble piloting a rocket ship or some other vessel. The idea was popularised by hobby archaeologist Erik Von Däniken, but more likely a religious depiction of the King's descent into the underworld. There is a whole sub culture of people who believe that aliens built or directed people to build the pyramids and other structures. Myself, I don't subscribe to that point of view. Humans can be ingenious when they put the effort in, and it's not hard to imagine that if we lost our civilisation and someone came across the remains of a Boeing 747 in thousands of years that they may ascribe the 'flying craft' to extra terrestrial intervention. That Mayan design reminds me of some of Jack Kirby's artwork. He was apparently influenced by Mayan and Aztec art. Regarding the Pyramids one topic you might be interested is the Bosnian pyramids, a complex claimed to be even larger and more accurately aligned than those at Giza, which has gone unremarked for millennia hidden by undergrowth and mistaken for hills. The official story is that this is pseudo-archaeology but I think that once the actual details are looked into it is much more complex than that. tourcroatia.co.uk/are-they-lying-to-you-about-the-bosnian-pyramids/Them thar hills at that location are very uniform looking - almost indeed like pyramids covered by undergrowth. A topic worth investigating imho.
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Post by kemp on Jul 13, 2023 23:23:28 GMT -5
That Mayan design reminds me of some of Jack Kirby's artwork. He was apparently influenced by Mayan and Aztec art. Regarding the Pyramids one topic you might be interested is the Bosnian pyramids, a complex claimed to be even larger and more accurately aligned than those at Giza, which has gone unremarked for millennia hidden by undergrowth and mistaken for hills. The official story is that this is pseudo-archaeology but I think that once the actual details are looked into it is much more complex than that. tourcroatia.co.uk/are-they-lying-to-you-about-the-bosnian-pyramids/Them thar hills at that location are very uniform looking - almost indeed like pyramids covered by undergrowth. A topic worth investigating imho. It certainly needs further investigation. The three sides look perfectly aligned, unsure why the Euro Association of Archaeologists are against the dig on the site, perhaps it just goes against their narrative that human civilisation goes back more than 10,000 years ago. If, as they claim it's just a 'cruel hoax' created to bring in the tourist dollar shouldn't there be records of a major excavation using earth moving vehicles to create the feature, especially considering the size of the hills. 'Like the Egyptian Pyramids, the Bosnian ones orient to the cosmic north, but with an accuracy 15 times greater than that of the Pyramid of Giza. The peaks of the Sun, Dragon, and Moon pyramid also form a perfect equilateral triangle, which supporters hold as irrefutable evidence of the pyramids being man-made. The Pyramid of the Sun also has overlapping layers of concrete, which international tests have deemed to be “not of natural origin,” and with a “strength and water resistance superior to known material.” On one hand, it seems so implausible that an ancient civilisation, alive during the middle of an ice age, could build these pyramids using the toughest concrete ever known to man. Yet on the other hand it is equally unbelievable that pyramids so accurately aligned to the compass points and to each other, could ever occur naturally. If the case for the Bosnian Pyramids turns out to be true, it will revolutionise our understanding of human civilisation. Osmanagic argues that the scientists don’t want to accept that their current understanding of human history could be wrong.'
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Post by kemp on Jul 14, 2023 3:51:24 GMT -5
I have read that there has been a rise in reports of alien abductions, especially gray alien abduction, the abductees, some may be lying, but many are at least convinced in their own mind that they have been taken against their will and experimented on, and there are stories about cattle mutilation attributed to aliens. When I get some time we can take a journey into the dark side of the UFO alien phenomenon.
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Post by zarono on Jul 14, 2023 6:52:47 GMT -5
Reccomended viewing:
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Post by Char-Vell on Jul 14, 2023 12:03:59 GMT -5
Reccomended viewing: seen it. it's a good 'un.
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Post by zarono on Jul 14, 2023 17:51:15 GMT -5
Reccomended viewing: seen it. it's a good 'un. The X-Files episode Jose Chung's From Outer Space is also a good one to revisit, not only entertaining but also makes you wonder about the endless layers of obfuscation that have always been part in the subject.
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Post by kemp on Jul 14, 2023 20:15:25 GMT -5
seen it. it's a good 'un. The X-Files episode Jose Chung's From Outer Space is also a good one to revisit, not only entertaining but also makes you wonder about the endless layers of obfuscation that have always been part in the subject. Good one Thanks for making me aware of the Mirage Men doco. The idea that the US government fabricated the UFO alien pop culture thing in order to deflect from other more terrestrial activities makes sense to some degree, or least encouraging it. One can argue that the whole proliferation of science fiction alien material about other dimensions and alien inhabited worlds in so many entertainment mediums over the last few decades, including streaming services and movies, is one big psyop to prepare people for false flag events such as faked alien invasions and 'disclosures', control through fear so to speak. It sounds like a conspiracy, but in all honesty what is more plausible, that governments are always scheming and lying to people, or that something as ridiculous as goblin like gray/green aliens exist !?!
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Post by zarono on Jul 14, 2023 22:32:02 GMT -5
I think that lies and schemes and aliens are equally plausible. The schemes may even be orchestrated by intelligences who understand human behavior and psychology far better then we do and modify society to suit whatever their desires may be. We have all sorts of tv shows built around watching various animal behavior for entertainment, Earth may be the most popular reality show in the galaxy.
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Post by kemp on Jul 15, 2023 18:45:01 GMT -5
I think that lies and schemes and aliens are equally plausible. The schemes may even be orchestrated by intelligences who understand human behavior and psychology far better then we do and modify society to suit whatever their desires may be. We have all sorts of tv shows built around watching various animal behavior for entertainment, Earth may be the most popular reality show in the galaxy.Of that I have no doubt
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Post by kemp on Jul 16, 2023 4:46:12 GMT -5
You know Zarono, when you said that the 'schemes may even be orchestrated by intelligences who understand human behavior and psychology far better then we do and modify society to suit whatever their desires may be', for some reason that made me think of the film 'Dark City'.
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Post by kemp on Jul 16, 2023 4:50:42 GMT -5
I watched the movie 'Communion' years ago, it starred Christopher Walken as New York novelist Whitley Strieber who experiences an abduction by aliens and the subsequent impact on his life that followed afterwards, including nightmares and paranoia, also repeat encounters with the extra terrestrials, including the fan favourites, the greys, based on a book by the actual Whitley Strieber who claimed that it was based on 'real life events'.
Whatever else this movie lacked, I have to admit that Christopher Walken was good in the role.
To me this movie captures all the alien abductee tropes.
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