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Post by Jason Aiken on Aug 27, 2024 12:31:18 GMT -5
Not sure of the source but I would not doubt it...
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 27, 2024 16:50:55 GMT -5
Not sure of the source but I would not doubt it... He’s definitely not alone! |
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Post by Von K on Aug 30, 2024 19:17:09 GMT -5
Didn't GRRM say something similar about GoT? With HBO's budget cuts for the show they're just not going to have time to handle anything outside the major characters and plotlines.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Aug 31, 2024 11:34:04 GMT -5
Didn't GRRM say something similar about GoT? With HBO's budget cuts for the show they're just not going to have time to handle anything outside the major characters and plotlines. I can't remember him coming out like this with the original GoT series. With the books he has an unlimited budget, and he's a TV veteran, so he has to know how budgets work, etc... from his Beauty & the Beast tv series days. Back during the Game of Thrones early days he was still not a mainstream name, so he didn't have the clout he has now. Still, some of the decisions they made with combining Nettles with Rhaena... not a wise move. |
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Post by Von K on Aug 31, 2024 20:28:03 GMT -5
Didn't GRRM say something similar about GoT? With HBO's budget cuts for the show they're just not going to have time to handle anything outside the major characters and plotlines. I can't remember him coming out like this with the original GoT series. With the books he has an unlimited budget, and he's a TV veteran, so he has to know how budgets work, etc... from his Beauty & the Beast tv series days. Back during the Game of Thrones early days he was still not a mainstream name, so he didn't have the clout he has now. Still, some of the decisions they made with combining Nettles with Rhaena... not a wise move. I seem to recall there was a point where the TV series was beginning to catch up with the novels and GRRM remarked about some of the storylines and characters they were skipping from the books. My memory could be faulty though.
It's a common technique to combine characters in adaptations, but it can be controversial to those who like the characters from the original material. One example was in The Expanse where they folded three characters from the books into one. It worked fine for the TV show though, and that case the original authors were heavily involved in the scripting and on board with the changes.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 31, 2024 22:18:34 GMT -5
I can't remember him coming out like this with the original GoT series. With the books he has an unlimited budget, and he's a TV veteran, so he has to know how budgets work, etc... from his Beauty & the Beast tv series days. Back during the Game of Thrones early days he was still not a mainstream name, so he didn't have the clout he has now. Still, some of the decisions they made with combining Nettles with Rhaena... not a wise move. I seem to recall there was a point where the TV series was beginning to catch up with the novels and GRRM remarked about some of the storylines and characters they were skipping from the books. My memory could be faulty though.
It's a common technique to combine characters in adaptations, but it can be controversial to those who like the characters from the original material. One example was in The Expanse where they folded three characters from the books into one. It worked fine for the TV show though, and that case the original authors were heavily involved in the scripting and on board with the changes.
I think he was disappointed about Lady Stoneheart and Victarion, but I’d have to double check. The show could’ve run at least 8 full 10 episode seasons if they were included. And that’s not even counting the lost Targaryen we still have to deal with in WoW. |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Sept 1, 2024 11:43:09 GMT -5
Looks like George is going to do another post airing his grievances. Wow, he must really be upset.
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Post by johnnypt on Sept 1, 2024 13:42:17 GMT -5
Looks like George is going to do another post airing his grievances. Wow, he must really be upset. Shouldn’t he be waiting until December 23? 😊 |
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Post by Von K on Sept 2, 2024 18:32:54 GMT -5
I seem to recall there was a point where the TV series was beginning to catch up with the novels and GRRM remarked about some of the storylines and characters they were skipping from the books. My memory could be faulty though.
It's a common technique to combine characters in adaptations, but it can be controversial to those who like the characters from the original material. One example was in The Expanse where they folded three characters from the books into one. It worked fine for the TV show though, and that case the original authors were heavily involved in the scripting and on board with the changes.
I think he was disappointed about Lady Stoneheart and Victarion, but I’d have to double check. The show could’ve run at least 8 full 10 episode seasons if they were included. And that’s not even counting the lost Targaryen we still have to deal with in WoW. I gotta say though that I think that Dan and Dave did awesomely adapting the books they did have, and that it must have been a real curveball for them and the writers under them to have run out of original material to work from. It is often beyond difficult to capture the nuances of another writers characters, especially in a work of this size and complexity. I can't help but feel that GRRM was hedging a little because of the pressure on him to finish the books when the TV series got so popular. I think that some of that pressure and the many distractions arising from it knocked GRRM out of the headspace (or zone) he needed to be in to write the stuff. In some ways creatively I feel he might be a victim of his own success in that regard.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Sept 4, 2024 22:38:03 GMT -5
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Post by Von K on Sept 5, 2024 19:46:20 GMT -5
Thanks Jason - a little spoileriffic for those who haven't read the book, though he does give due warning.
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